TiVo : Will Virginmedia ever match Sky's channel line up?

[windy]

This is an interesting read...thanks people.

[Telly_]

Originally Posted by denphone

From what l have heard PB there is no chance of Sky beating them to it as my sources from a Sky insider indicate that Virgin will beat Sky to this by at least 6 months with networking to come sometime later this year.

My Virginmedia insider tells me Sky will probably beat them to networking by at least 7 months(see what I did there?).

Sky already have an estimated 60% of Sky+HD boxes connected to the home network and rising weekly. Your TiVo may have a cable connection but it will still need connecting to your home network to stream between boxes. I understand VM are working on a way round this but its going to take time.

Sky will be streaming between boxes before the end of 2012, VM still need to rollout TiVo to ALL boxes before they can even think about streaming between a TiVo and a VHD unless you're going to have homes with 2 or 3 TiVo's?

Ok a little googling has got me this...

The DRX595 None recordable SkyHD box is "Multiroom streaming" ready, You'll be able to watch a TV channel whilst someone else is streaming from the same box. It has had Alpha testing(closed) it will Beta in Summer 2012. No hard facts or official comments from Sky apart from the original announcement of Multiroom streaming when the DRX595 was launched.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Telly Bear

My Virginmedia insider tells me Sky will probably beat them to networking by at least 7 months. This is due to having to educate VM customers about connecting TiVo to the home network.

Sky already have an estimated 60% of Sky+HD boxes connected to the home network and rising weekly. Your TiVo may have a cable connection but it will still need connecting to your home network to stream between boxes. I understand VM are working on a way round this but its going to take time.

Sky will be streaming between boxes before the end of 2012, VM still need to rollout TiVo to ALL boxes before they can even think about streaming between a TiVo and a VHD unless you're going to have homes with 2 or 3 TiVo's?

l see as the masters apprentice you stll have much to learn and one of those is don't believe what you always read dear chap.

[Telly_]

Originally Posted by denphone

l see as the masters apprentice you stll have much to learn and one of those is don't believe what you always read dear chap.

Well everything Sky said they're going to do they have done EG-Truely unlimited broadband, Fibre optic broadband, Skygo, Sky free wifi for all customers via the cloud.Anytime+ roll out to all ISP's..

So you'll forgive me for believing Sky will have multiroom streaming 2012.

Everyone stay on topic or infractions will be issued. That includes people attempting to flame-bait other members.

[borrissey]

Thing is VM are busy rolling out there speed doubling.

[LexDiamond]

Then one thing I do like about Sky VOD is being able to download the material to my STB. That way I can watch it when I want rather than rushing through shows or even not being able to watch them.

[Emel]

Virgin Media may soon become part of a much larger media group, better able to compete with Sky and BT.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/375301/e...rgin-media-too

[m419]

I think the competition authorities should put it through, how come cable and wireless was able to swallow up 3 cable companies at once whilst owning one2one and mercury? And who the hell allowed NTL to take over the franchises when it had a huge debt mountain.

So I think they should put it through and if the C&W deal flops with Vodafone they should attempt at that as well since its only £1 Billion, plenty of infrastructure for 4G

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Emel

Virgin Media may soon become part of a much larger media group, better able to compete with Sky and BT.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/375301/e...rgin-media-too

That is interesting. Although I'm not happy about the prospect of VM being owned by the same company as Orange (the bunch of crooks).

[harry_hitch]

GOING BACK to the ORIGINAL point of the thread (mods?), no I don't think we will and I am very glad we wont. We have more than enough crap channels as it is, and there are plenty more crap channels on sky, but some mugs think content is king. Seriously quality over quantity any day of the week. I would much rather read a book, listen to a radio show (thank you BBC..your radio service is worth the license fee alone) or do some crosswords (or something to challenge my mind) whilst listening a decent album, instead of watching some pointless mind numbing trash that has (already been) repeated ad nauseum on sky atlantic. Sky can shove their remaining channels where the sun don't shine!

[Superblade7]

In answer to the question posed at the outset of this thread I would personally say that it is unlikely that VM will ever have as many channels as Sky. However less channels does not always make a inferior product. I'd be happy if VM added Sky Atlantic and a few extra HD channels but I certainly wouldn't swap to Sky just for these.

It's all a question of personal choice and which of the pay tv companies best meets your needs in terms of the services they offer and the price they charge. Both companies are clearly doing something right as otherwise Sky wouldn't have around 10 million customers and VM around 4 million. It's clear from your various posts Telly Bear that you prefer Sky to VM and that's great if they better meet your needs. However also bear in mind that many people prefer VM to Sky as they better meet their needs.

If you also take into account that only about 50% of UK homes can access VM's cable services whereas Sky is widely available to the majority of UK homes. It would be very interesting what the subscriber figures would be if both products were available equally.

The final interesting thing would be if a major investor like Everything Everwhere came in to takeover VM as with additional financially clout, VM could do much more!

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by Emel

Virgin Media may soon become part of a much larger media group, better able to compete with Sky and BT.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/375301/e...rgin-media-too

Just what VM need to compete with Sky and BT a large investor. Then they would be in a better position to fight for content.

[georgepomone]

Originally Posted by Superblade7

In answer to the question posed at the outset of this thread I would personally say that it is unlikely that VM will ever have as many channels as Sky. However less channels does not always make a inferior product. I'd be happy if VM added Sky Atlantic and a few extra HD channels but I certainly wouldn't swap to Sky just for these.

It's all a question of personal choice and which of the pay tv companies best meets your needs in terms of the services they offer and the price they charge. Both companies are clearly doing something right as otherwise Sky wouldn't have around 10 million customers and VM around 4 million. It's clear from your various posts Telly Bear that you prefer Sky to VM and that's great if they better meet your needs. However also bear in mind that many people prefer VM to Sky as they better meet their needs.

If you also take into account that only about 50% of UK homes can access VM's cable services whereas Sky is widely available to the majority of UK homes. It would be very interesting what the subscriber figures would be if both products were available equally.

The final interesting thing would be if a major investor like Everything Everwhere came in to takeover VM as with additional financially clout, VM could do much more!

It's OK if you would like the UK's biggest cable supplier with Franco/German
owner's. Not a good idea.

[m419]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

That is interesting. Although I'm not happy about the prospect of VM being owned by the same company as Orange (the bunch of crooks).

France telecom and Deutsche Telekom as well as the brands will cease to exist in the UK and will likely use the Virgin brand unless they will use the orange brand under license as well like Orange Israel, they used to do the same with Orange Austrailia and india until Hutchison rebranded them, with its indian operations now in the hands of Vodafone.

By the way France Telecom had a share in NTL or vice versa quite a few years ago when NTL had operations in France and Switzerland, in fact the British channels were still available a few years ago in Switzerland.