TiVo TiVo installed yesterday- not a good start - Page 3

starfish · 20-04-2012, 09:43

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

I completely agree, andy. I would really hate to have to go back to a "dumb" DVR like the V+

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Yes, because there were so few compared to Tivo

I really don't see what that has to do with it. It doesn't matter how many options you have, each screen could have numbers in front of the choices and it wouldn't be a problem. If it worked on a 'dumb V+' then surely it should work on the sophisticated Tivo.

'More options' does not have to equal 'more complicated' and 'less user friendly'. (Yes, I know this is Virgin Media, but still.) There seems to be this idea that because Tivo has more options it has to be harder to navigate but why on Earth would that have to be the case?

spiderplant · 20-04-2012, 10:11

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Originally Posted by starfish

I really don't see what that has to do with it. It doesn't matter how many options you have, each screen could have numbers in front of the choices and it wouldn't be a problem.

It would only work on menus with 10 or fewer options, but this isn't a problem with most TiVo menus. It is a great idea IMO

carlwaring · 20-04-2012, 13:28

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Originally Posted by starfish

There seems to be this idea that because Tivo has more options it has to be harder to navigate but why on Earth would that have to be the case?

How can something with more available options to use not be a little more complicated. Or, how can it be as easy to use if you have more options to navigate through?

kop32 · 20-04-2012, 13:55

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

How can something with more available options to use not be a little more complicated. Or, how can it be as easy to use if you have more options to navigate through?

Perhaps you should ask Apple because they seem to have managed it with the iPhone,the earlier iPhone 2 and 3 were very basic in modern terms but quite complicated to navigate yet the latest iPhone 4 and 4S are far simpler to "get the hang of" probably because they took a (then) premium product and built on it without the need to over complicate,just a thought...........

David H · 20-04-2012, 15:18

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

The aspect ratio settings are in Home -> Help&Settings -> Settings -> Video Output. Set the Aspect Correction Mode to Panel, and TV Aspect Ratio to match your TV.

Lovely job, I thought I'd poked every option (I don't think it's mentioned in the guide so had little choice), everyone looks normal now.

Now, any news if we're getting teletext? I'm amazed considering everyone else has it Mr Branson has been able to get away with getting rid of something just about everyone used. I could even get red button text on the old box so what's going on fighting with all the other providers (as usual, remember Sky 1?) while everyone else just gets on with things?

Digital Fanatic · 20-04-2012, 15:39

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Originally Posted by David H

Lovely job, I thought I'd poked every option (I don't think it's mentioned in the guide so had little choice), everyone looks normal now.

Now, any news if we're getting teletext? I'm amazed considering everyone else has it Mr Branson has been able to get away with getting rid of something just about everyone used. I could even get red button text on the old box so what's going on fighting with all the other providers (as usual, remember Sky 1?) while everyone else just gets on with things?

Red button TEXT is on TiVo via apps, just press RED on any BBC channel. There is video news reports, plus text news if you select the news menu once in the BBC News app.

carlwaring · 20-04-2012, 15:54

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Originally Posted by David H

I'm amazed considering everyone else has it Mr Branson ...

Mr Branson has nothing to do with anything to do with VM other than licensing them the name and appearing in some of their ads.

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has been able to get away with getting rid of something just about everyone used.

Any stats to back that up? I certainly hardly ever use(d) Teletext or the Red button.

DaMac · 20-04-2012, 16:32

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

Mr Branson has nothing to do with anything to do with VM other than licensing them the name and appearing in some of their ads.

Well i've had quite a few letters and e-mails promoting Virgin Media and telling me about "exciting" new things that are 'coming soon' that have Dicky's name and signature at the bottom.

carlwaring · 20-04-2012, 17:29

Yes. I'm sure he lets them use his signature now and again just like he does some ads. Still doesn't mean he has anything to with the business other than being an occasional "front-man" for them.

He is, in fact (and if I remember correctly) even a minority shareholder.

zappa100 · 21-04-2012, 14:39

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Furthermore, the quality on HD channels is lacking- my previous Samsung V+ box was giving much better picture quality. Here's hoping the issue can be fixed, otherwise I will revert to the previous V+ box.

I also had a Tivo installed this week. Although i am happy with the interface and apps. etc , i too am disappointed with the HD channels when compared with the V+.
For me this the make or break issue . Will see if it improves , otherwise i too will be swapping it for the V+ in my daughters room.

xcellency · 21-04-2012, 14:49

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Originally Posted by zappa100

I also had a Tivo installed this week. Although i am happy with the interface and apps. etc , i too am disappointed with the HD channels when compared with the V+.
For me this the make or break issue . Will see if it improves , otherwise i too will be swapping it for the V+ in my daughters room.

Hear hear. That is exactly what I intend to do- swap it for my kids Samsung V+, which was originally in the living room. I've also learnt that TiVo only supports 1080i as apposed to 1080p- meaning it is NOT FULL HD! Hence the reason for poor quality HD output.

Oh and it's a week since installation- still unable to use OnDemand.

kop32 · 21-04-2012, 15:24

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Originally Posted by xcellency

Hear hear. That is exactly what I intend to do- swap it for my kids Samsung V+, which was originally in the living room. I've also learnt that TiVo only supports 1080i as apposed to 1080p- meaning it is NOT FULL HD! Hence the reason for poor quality HD output.

Oh and it's a week since installation- still unable to use OnDemand.

At present Virgin Media dont broadcast in 1080p any way so there would be no difference in quality even if TiVo did support 1080p.

carlwaring · 21-04-2012, 15:49

At present, to the best of my knowledge, no UK broadcaster uses 1080p so VM is as "full HD" as you can currently get.

muppetman11 · 21-04-2012, 15:57

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

At present, to the best of my knowledge, no UK broadcaster uses 1080p so VM is as "full HD" as you can currently get.

Even in the US 1080p isn't used in broadcast TV however DirecTV and Dish Network utilize 1080p with MPEG4 AVC/H.264 encoding for certain PPV movies that are downloaded in advance via Satellite.

steveh · 21-04-2012, 16:24

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

At present, to the best of my knowledge, no UK broadcaster uses 1080p so VM is as "full HD" as you can currently get.

BBC HD does some programming in 1080p.

http://www.reghardware.com/2011/05/23/bbc_hd_1080p/

Not sure if this is just Freeview.