Do you like the new STM

[Telly_]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I have to say I have never observed the weird pings issue whilst under STM. Unless of course I am downloading at the same time at the STM rate limit which is to be expected.

I hope it doesn't get any worse as I had NTL about 9 years ago and it was pretty much pathetic so I moved to Sky and BT which worked flawlessly for 9 years although at only 6Mb and then 17Mb after the ADSL 2 upgrade. I moved back to NTL or Virginmedia as it is now known about 14 months ago and had a Tivo fitted about 10 months ago.

So far the TiVo has been so bad its now moved up stairs and we use the VHD in the living room and the internet is awful for online gaming and constantly buffers on youtube.

[hjf288]

I'm just waiting to see what speed I will get on the new infinity package

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by broadbandking

My ping is getting worse and my jitter is always been in double figures.

Second night running that i have been traffic shaped and i have only been surfing. Complaint will be sent in tomorrow first thing.

[General Maximus]

that's not traffic shaping, it is traffic management. Shaping is throttling p2p traffic and flagging it as low priority so speed is dependable on volume of network traffic. In my area it is excellent so I still get great speeds on torrents and stuff. Traffic management is stm which is what it looks like you hit because that is when they chop your speed in half once you hit a certain limit. I downloaded 50gb on torrents this morning and my speed was reduced to a consistant 6375k/sec. Next time it happens I'll run a speed test and see what it comes out at.

Are you sure you havent been downloading anything? I think the evening thing is 1600-2100 and the limit for us is 10gb. Buuuuuuuuuuuuut, thinking about it now, you might have been screwed. If you are newly upgraded from 50mbit they have admitted that you will still be on the old limits which means you are on the 50mbit threshold of 5gb till you area is upgraded.

[Gavin78]

95ms its still a stable gaming connection I have had mine 200ms and its still been a stable game before

[Mad Max]

So far the TiVo has been so bad

Eh, so whats wrong with it?

[Rob King]

will the 120mb package be unlimited ?

[Rexz]

Originally Posted by Gavin78

95ms its still a stable gaming connection I have had mine 200ms and its still been a stable game before

HAHA are you kidding me?! I wouldn't class 95ms as stable gaming to be honest. Yeah if you want to play some online strategy or MMO which doesn't rely on latency so much. I don't fancy playing an FPS with rubber banding, and the server/client trying to overcome the latency. Some servers even kick for higher latencies than 150ms as it offers an unfair advantage. Believe it or not 100ms is quite noticeable. 100ms would be like gaming on your iPad with its touch delay.

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by Rob King

will the 120mb package be unlimited ?

dont think so, the STM remains to be published though

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

that's not traffic shaping, it is traffic management. Shaping is throttling p2p traffic and flagging it as low priority so speed is dependable on volume of network traffic. In my area it is excellent so I still get great speeds on torrents and stuff. Traffic management is stm which is what it looks like you hit because that is when they chop your speed in half once you hit a certain limit. I downloaded 50gb on torrents this morning and my speed was reduced to a consistant 6375k/sec. Next time it happens I'll run a speed test and see what it comes out at.

Are you sure you havent been downloading anything? I think the evening thing is 1600-2100 and the limit for us is 10gb. Buuuuuuuuuuuuut, thinking about it now, you might have been screwed. If you are newly upgraded from 50mbit they have admitted that you will still be on the old limits which means you are on the 50mbit threshold of 5gb till you area is upgraded.

Been on 100 meg from when it went live here.

[General Maximus]

Originally Posted by Rexz

HAHA are you kidding me?! I wouldn't class 95ms as stable gaming to be honest. Yeah if you want to play some online strategy or MMO which doesn't rely on latency so much. I don't fancy playing an FPS with rubber banding, and the server/client trying to overcome the latency. Some servers even kick for higher latencies than 150ms as it offers an unfair advantage. Believe it or not 100ms is quite noticeable. 100ms would be like gaming on your iPad with its touch delay.

I completely agree. I have been playing the BF series since it first came out and I can defo tell when I am on a server in Russia or a European server with a horrendous ping. For, 60 or below gives me a solid connection and I kick ass, anything over 100 and you can definitely feel it.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

I completely agree. I have been playing the BF series since it first came out and I can defo tell when I am on a server in Russia or a European server with a horrendous ping. For, 60 or below gives me a solid connection and I kick ass, anything over 100 and you can definitely feel it.

Maybe you could try our servers, You can get the details at www.nthwgaming.co.uk

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by broadbandking

As the current new STM thread has may mixed views of people who like or dislike the new STM that VM have brought it, I throught it would be good to get an idea of who actually likes or dislikes, if you want aswell you can explain why you like or dislike the new STM rules.

I cannot vote as it's not a fair one. For example, one can not like the STM but know and agree with the reason for it being there.

Some things are not black and white

That said, I chose the third option anyway.

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Originally Posted by Peter_

I downloaded 3 movies this afternoon and I am still running at 30Mb so no issues here.

I can only assume you work for VM

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Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

As I've always said, if I pay for a speed I expect to get it. If I pay for unlimited, I expect to get it.

And you are doing. "Unlimited" has always referred to the amount you can download, not the speed.

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Originally Posted by adduxi

Should there have been a fourth option?
Perhaps "Does not matter to me" .....

I've just checked the STM evening limits for 100MB, and if correct it is 6GB.
I then checked my router logs and the maximum I've downloaded in the past lot of months is 28GB in a single month.

So, going on those figures, I don't think STM will bother me too much.

Oh look. Another VM employee

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

I cannot vote as it's not a fair one. For example, one can not like the STM but know and agree with the reason for it being there.

Some things are not black and white

That said, I chose the third option anyway.

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I can only assume you work for VM

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And you are doing. "Unlimited" has always referred to the amount you can download, not the speed.

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Oh look. Another VM employee

Whats your problem with VM employees, BTW i am an employee and you missed me out

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Whats your problem with VM employees, BTW i am an employee and you missed me out

I don't have one. You seemed to miss the <- sarcasm indicator

Whenever anyone says they "don't have a problem" with something to do with VM, the usual comment from those that do is that "must work for VM" because they can't accept that most people don't have the same problem as them