Private health firms could be given access to anonymous NHS patient records & data

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I'm not a grasser, but it was your car insurance company.

No its not i have already asked them. Additionally i opted out of there option to give selected companies my details.

Why would they sell info about a accident that was my fault and they have already paid out on to repair both cars considering i opted out of allowing them to do it.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Sirius

No its not already asked them.

They lied

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Gary L

They lied

Why should i believe

[Gary L]

Think logically about it
unless they were there to witness and take not of both reg plates, then the only way they could have got the info was from someone who has that info to sell them.

and that's your insurance company.

opting out don't mean bugger all. I opt out all the time but it's obvious that the company whether it be net based or whatever ignored it.

[Mick Fisher]

It seems to me that if there are pound notes to be earned or saved by this Administration (especially from amongst the rank and file) then privacy and any form of regulation except lip service will be thrown out of the window.

Rest assured that if enough people opt, out so earnings are affected, then a law will be passed to make compliance compulsory.

I would not be surprised to hear proposals concerning the unauthorised acquisition and sale of body parts for profit next if this trend continues.

[Peter_]

All that will happen if this is allowed is that your home phone and mobile will see a increase in ambulance chasing companies trying to get you to claim through them, at least you can get software for your phone to block these scummy firms as I have installed on my own phone.

Here is the link http://www.truecaller.com/

According to that article:

- There is no information on whether they plan to charge for the data
- There is no information on opt-outs

But apart from that, feel free to vent your outrage over plans that have yet to be finalised, let alone implemented.

Clearly there are dangers and adequate safeguards must be set in place, but if the stated aim is to give a further advantage to the UK's life sciences sector by giving it access to data that will improve its ability to devise new treatments, what really is the problem? British business benefits and British hospital patients benefit.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chris

According to that article:

- There is no information on whether they plan to charge for the data
- There is no information on opt-outs

But apart from that, feel free to vent your outrage over plans that have yet to be finalised, let alone implemented.

Clearly there are dangers and adequate safeguards must be set in place, but if the stated aim is to give a further advantage to the UK's life sciences sector by giving it access to data that will improve its ability to devise new treatments, what really is the problem? British business benefits and British hospital patients benefit.

As above getting hounded by these firms who will buy our details hence I will opt out at the first chance I get as will many other people once they realise the opt out is in place.

I do not want my private life interrupted by some ******* firm/s trying to make a fast buck from my personal details.

I don't believe there was any suggestion in the BBC report that packages of data would be available for sale to ambulance-chasing lawyers.

In fact I distinctly remember the proposal being limited to:

Originally Posted by Government, quoted by BBC

"The life sciences industry ...

in order to

... improve research, innovation and the development of medicines in the UK."

Everything else, at this stage, is idle speculation and party-political point-scoring. And on that note, let's not forget that the article also says:

Shadow health secretary Andy Burnham said he did not object in principle to a closer partnership between the NHS and the life sciences sector as this "could be good for both sides".

[Peter_]

It is a question of trust and I for one would not trust any such company having access to my records so I hope it falls at the first hurdle.

What such company? Are you still talking about the legal practices that nobody has suggested giving your data to, or are you now focusing on the medical research organisations that are in fact the subject of the article?

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chris

What such company? Are you still talking about the legal practices that nobody has suggested giving your data to, or are you now focusing on the medical research organisations that are in fact the subject of the article?

I personaly do not want any outside organisation having access to my medical records without my express consent just because the government is trying to make a fast buck out of mine or anyone else's details.

OK - so if it is eventually announced that there will be no charge for the use of the data, would you approve in that case?

Or what if a charge was made to cover the administrative costs of sending the data over and running a safeguarding scheme to prevent its misuse? Would you approve of that?

Originally Posted by Masque

It is a question of trust and I for one would not trust any such company having access to my records so I hope it falls at the first hurdle.

I'm sorry but i fail to see any connection or colaboration between ambulance chasing lawers and medical research facilities.Any research facility would have far too much to lose by passing out peoples personal information if they even get it in the first place

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chris

OK - so if it is eventually announced that there will be no charge for the use of the data, would you approve in that case?

Or what if a charge was made to cover the administrative costs of sending the data over and running a safeguarding scheme to prevent its misuse? Would you approve of that?

I do not want people like this ringing me because they have access to my medical records so I will opt out if this comes into being.

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Originally Posted by martyh

I'm sorry but i fail to see any connection or colaboration between ambulance chasing lawers and medical research facilities.Any research facility would have far too much to lose by passing out peoples personal information if they even get it in the first place