New Acceptable Usage Policy from VM (discussion) - Page 3

BenMcr · 17-11-2011, 19:55

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Originally Posted by cook1984

and will need to roll out new STBs (at their own cost) to support it.

Which won't happen. Virgin are committed to TiVo as their next generation TV platform

The Hitman · 17-11-2011, 20:50

The Acceptable Usage Policy is not Acceptable

ZrByte · 18-11-2011, 05:45

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Originally Posted by cook1984

The only policy I will ever support is adding more capacity. Limiting people is not a solution, it rips off customers and creates new network problems like the massive bandwidth and latency spike bang on 9PM when the STM period ends.

The current limits are also unreasonably low. Less than 1 hour of HD video in the evenings on the better of the two 10 meg tiers? And they call that "unlimited". What a joke. I would upgrade but since there is no chance of getting a proper modem I have to wait for them to fix the Superhub and then attach my router to that.

Superhub has been fixed now, at least it has as far as modem mode being enabled so you can link your own router properly.

7031 · 18-11-2011, 06:15

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Originally Posted by ZrByte

Superhub has been fixed now, at least it has as far as modem mode being enabled so you can link your own router properly.

Seconded. Mine runs fine with my Linksys E3000 with DD-WRT in modem mode. Having said that, supposedly the SuperHub actually runs OK now on its own.

kwikbreaks · 18-11-2011, 06:46

Certainly before the firmware upgrade it was a form of STM for many on it's own - use wireless for more than half an hour and it would hang. I can only assume those who claimed it was fine must have had different firmware.

**Hugh** · 18-11-2011, 08:21

Wow - way to go for a tenuous link.......

Dush · 18-11-2011, 08:34

They could setup arrangements so that at least the external peering wouldn't load their networks much as they could host a youview server themselves internally within the VM network. Obviously this won't be any good for local utilisation issues though.

It's interesting how usage is changing and I do hope competition forces the ISPs to increase bandwidth and roll out products, even for a premium price, consumers would want due to the way they use internet.

Ignitionnet · 18-11-2011, 10:33

Given most people think 25 quid a month is a premium price I wouldn't bet on it.

Dush · 18-11-2011, 10:44

I don't know about that, once people realise that in order to enjoy VoD and gaming on demand they need high quality connectivity they will pay. Or alternatively the carriers will charge the content suppliers and they will past on their costs with higher monthly charges. So either way they will pay.

They can sign up to their Â£5 a month service and get cut off for over-usage and will realise they need something more substantial. People's usage is massively changing with adoption of on demand services.

At the moment people pay a lot of money per month for phone, internet and TV. If that can all be delivered over IP networks then it could be a similar fee as you're getting the same services.

Sirius · 18-11-2011, 12:39

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Originally Posted by 7031

Seconded. Mine runs fine with my Linksys E3000 with DD-WRT in modem mode. Having said that, supposedly the SuperHub actually runs OK now on its own.

Yep my shub in router mode has not had to be rebooted since the upgraded software was uploaded. It has been off once but that was because it was unplugged by mistake

Daveoc64 · 18-11-2011, 18:24

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Originally Posted by AndyCalling

I think STM was aimed at reducing the over-usage of the top 5% of users? Something like that.

That's what they claimed, but when you look at the STM policy when it was introduced and as it has evolved over the years that simply doesn't make sense.

Many ISPs around the world use the same "top 5%" claim, but I really don't believe it.

cook1984 · 22-11-2011, 16:56

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Originally Posted by Dush

I don't know about that, once people realise that in order to enjoy VoD and gaming on demand they need high quality connectivity they will pay.

Thing is those are the most common uses of the internet. YouTube and iPlayer et. al are extremely popular and people rightly get upset when they don't work. Gaming, especially via XBOX Live and PSN, is also a very common everyday use. If your basic service can't support the most common applications and you expect a premium for them you won't last very long.

alferret · 22-11-2011, 18:23

Personally I would like to see a monthly limit 100gb-10Mb, 200gb-30Mb, 300gb-50Mb & 500gb-100Mb with those over using allowed amounts restricted to 10% of their paid for tier till the end of their paid month.
As a user who DL's about 50gb from usenet & about 30-50gb on OD progs + general internet I do feel agreeved that others in my area are using their net that is detremental to my personal use. I will add that 95% of my DL's are done after I go to bed 11pm onwards.

keepitretro · 22-11-2011, 18:45

Sorry but thats total %^&* I currently pay Â£48 a month for just my internet and for that amount i will do as i please,

thank you sir!!!

Don't think having a fixed amount a month is gonna work,

Who the hell is gonna sign up for 100mb broadband at Â£48 a month with a
500gb limit, not while ive still got a hole in my [Mod Edit - do not use language that invokes the swear filter]!!

keepitretro · 22-11-2011, 18:52

And this month has been quiet so far!!!