Peers at the trough?

If she's guilty of breaking the rules, she should be punished.
However, from the same story in the Times
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/p...cle3427510.ece

The Acton flat is understood to be owned by Dr Wafik Moustafa, a Conservative donor and former electoral candidate, who is now engaged in a dispute with the party and Lady Warsi.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Hugh

If she's guilty of breaking the rules, she should be punished.

Sacked is the only option for anyone stealing money or committing fraud

[AdamD]

Or heaven forbid, jail.

Better yet, jail term, plus 50% interest on the amount stolen.

[nomadking]

She paid the money that what have been spent on hotels, to the person she was staying with. It was only for a total of 12 days spread over six weeks. She spent other times at a hotel.

If somebody claimed long term for a room in somebody else's house and they were not sleeping in that room, but with their lover who was receiving the money to help pay of their mortgage, then that would be fraud. Claiming expenses for your constituency home whilst supposedly staying in a room at your sister's house or you are provided with government housing(ie 10 Downing St), would again be fraud.

[Osem]

I reckon it's about time we heard of some 'oversights' which actually cost our glorious leaders some money. That'd help redress the balance a little.

[devilincarnate]

This is even more damning than the first part?

The baroness had declared the property on the register of ministerial interests but she failed to inform the register of Lords' interests that she was letting the property.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18227036

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

This is even more damning than the first part?



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18227036

Why is it that damning? The letting of the property came a lot later(June 2010). The expenses issue was 2 years earlier(early 2008).

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Why is it that damning? The letting of the property came a lot later(June 2010). The expenses issue was 2 years earlier(early 2008).

If you read what I quoted and also she has only just has this information come to light? Plus this as well?

In a separate development, Lady Warsi admitted not fully declaring rental income from the Wembley flat after she moved out in June 2010.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18234167

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

If you read what I quoted and also she has only just has this information come to light? Plus this as well?



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18234167

She reported the rental income on the register of Ministers' interests and more importantly for tax purposes, she just forgot a different register of Lords' interests. Nothing was really hidden, so why all the fuss?

"When the discrepancy became apparent this week, I immediately informed the Registrar of Lords' Interests of its omission. I repeat: at all times my ownership of the flat and the fact that it was being let out was fully disclosed to Cabinet Office officials and HM Revenue and Customs, and was appropriately reported on the register of Ministers' interests held by the Government."

Speaking of reporting of income for tax purposes, whatever happened to Tessa Jowell and her hubby about their tax dodging and money laundering. They eventually paid the tax, but had deliberately planned not to, until they were caught out. Eventually paying the tax is proof that they wanted to dodge it.

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by nomadking

She reported the rental income on the register of Ministers' interests and more importantly for tax purposes, she just forgot a different register of Lords' interests. Nothing was really hidden, so why all the fuss?
Speaking of reporting of income for tax purposes, whatever happened to Tessa Jowell and her hubby about their tax dodging and money laundering. They eventually paid the tax, but had deliberately planned not to, until they were caught out. Eventually paying the tax is proof that they wanted to dodge it.

Ok I will stand up and be corrected But all of these who have cheated should be shot

[Osem]

Two Conservative peers jailed for expenses fraud have been warned they could return to prison unless they pay back tens of thousands of pounds.

Lord Taylor of Warwick was told to pay £151,000 while former leader of Essex County Council Lord Hanningfield was ordered to pay £37,000.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19746949

Good!

[Osem]

Half the members of the House of Lords clock in and out of Parliament for a few minutes a day in order to claim a £300 daily attendance allowance, a former Conservative peer has said.

Lord Hanningfield made the claim when challenged to explain his own attendance record.

The Daily Mirror alleges on 11 of 19 occasions he attended the Lords in July he spent less than 40 minutes there.

There is no suggestion the peer broke any rules.

Members of the House of Lords are not paid a salary but can claim a daily allowance of £300 if they attend a sitting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25411182

More nice 'work' if you can get it eh?

It seems their consciences don't get the better of them when it comes to allowances...

Originally Posted by Osem

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25411182

More nice 'work' if you can get it eh?

It seems their consciences don't get the better of them when it comes to allowances...

I think the Lords needs sorting out and i thought that was being done but obviously not ,and for Hanningfield to suggest that most Lords do it then there is definitely something wrong with the system

[Gary L]

Reasons why a revolution is inevitable, are springing up constantly in government. aren't they.