A Muslim MP - Page 3

frogstamper · 17-04-2010, 04:02

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Originally Posted by Bricktop

Him and Peter Mandelscum are two reasons not to vote Liebour.

Great stuff we certainly don't want BNP knuckledraggers in any of Britain's decent parties, best thing your "members" can do is stick together and play hunt the brain-cell.

Ed2020 · 17-04-2010, 05:31

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

Great stuff we certainly don't want BNP knuckledraggers in any of Britain's decent parties, best thing your "members" can do is stick together and play hunt the brain-cell.

Gary L · 17-04-2010, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Russ

It's not for you or I to decide whether he's a 'good' or 'bad' Muslim.

You can have an opinion on whether someone's a good or a bad one. who can decide whether he's a good or a bad one?

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Originally Posted by Product 13

Of-course not, That could only be made a reality if the people of this country sat back and let it happen.

And then when that happens it'll be too late.

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Originally Posted by bjorkiii

do beans go with mash and fish ?

Usually peas, but beans is ok I've tried it

**Maggy** · 17-04-2010, 14:41

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Originally Posted by Gary L

You can have an opinion on whether someone's a good or a bad one. who can decide whether he's a good or a bad one?

Another Muslim presumably, who has studied the Qu'ran in as great or greater detail.

As an atheist I wouldn't presume to judge if a Muslim was a good or bad Muslim.

Now as to whether he's/she's a good person is another matter entirely.

Xaccers · 17-04-2010, 19:21

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Originally Posted by Gary L

And then when that happens it'll be too late.

When? Gary, you believe that it will happen?

Gary L · 17-04-2010, 19:29

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

When? Gary, you believe that it will happen?

Never in a million years.

Xaccers · 17-04-2010, 19:41

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Never in a million years.

Why not?

Gary L · 17-04-2010, 19:52

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

Why not?

There's a few reasons I can think of really why there will never be a muslim PM. one of which being nobody would vote him or her in.

**Hugh** · 17-04-2010, 20:06

People don't vote for a PM (it's not like US of A President) - people vote for their party/MP, and the leader of the Party can change (viz. G Brown and J Major for example, non-elected PM's (but tbf, JM did get elected in 92)).

speedfreak · 17-04-2010, 20:06

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Originally Posted by Gary L

There's a few reasons I can think of really why there will never be a muslim PM. one of which being nobody would vote him or her in.

If the amount of muslims continues to grow in this country, wouldnt you say theres a very good chance it will someday happen? Not wanting to be controversial here but, and this maybe just my opinion, some people of different nationalities tend to have a lot more kids than "us", surely one day the muslim population will be greater than our own?

Xaccers · 17-04-2010, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Gary L

There's a few reasons I can think of really why there will never be a muslim PM. one of which being nobody would vote him or her in.

I do wonder why people on both sides beleive not just that it could possibly happen, but that it will definitely happen.

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Originally Posted by speedfreak

If the amount of muslims continues to grow in this country, wouldnt you say theres a very good chance it will someday happen? Not wanting to be controversial here but, and this maybe just my opinion, some people of different nationalities tend to have a lot more kids than "us", surely one day the muslim population will be greater than our own?

They would have to get a majority in a majority of constituencies, and by the time they've done that, they'd most likely have gone native anyway.
They'd also have to convince the Lords and the Monarch.

speedfreak · 17-04-2010, 20:13

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

They'd also have to convince the Lords and the Monarch.

Why? How does that work?

Thanks in advance for the education

Gary L · 17-04-2010, 20:17

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

People don't vote for a PM (it's not like US of A President) - people vote for their party/MP, and the leader of the Party can change (viz. G Brown and J Major for example, non-elected PM's (but tbf, JM did get elected in 92)).

That's what I meant.

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Originally Posted by speedfreak

If the amount of muslims continues to grow in this country, wouldnt you say theres a very good chance it will someday happen? Not wanting to be controversial here but, and this maybe just my opinion, some people of different nationalities tend to have a lot more kids than "us", surely one day the muslim population will be greater than our own?

The population could and would be greater than ours. that's what a lot of people are worried about. but I still don't think there will ever be a muslim PM.

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

I do wonder why people on both sides beleive not just that it could possibly happen, but that it will definitely happen.

Really.

Ed2020 · 17-04-2010, 20:26

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Originally Posted by speedfreak

Why? How does that work?

Thanks in advance for the education

I think the Queen may have some reservations about a Muslim PM making appointments within the Church of England.

Xaccers · 17-04-2010, 20:37

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Originally Posted by speedfreak

Why? How does that work?

Thanks in advance for the education

This is why I think politics should be taught in schools.
I would estimate that the majority of people know pretty much nothing about how our system works.
If people were taught about it, I would have thought they'd be more interested in taking part by voting, or contacting their MP about concerns etc.

A very simplistic and therefore not totally accurate description of what happens is a bill is presented to either of the houses (Commons, full of MPs, and Lords, full of er well, Lords) for debate and a vote on it. If it passess it goes to the other house for a debate and vote, if both houses agree then it goes to the monarch to be signed into law and changes from a bill to an act (as it's an act of parliment).

So in order for say Common law to be replaced by Sharia law, the government would need to decide how the Sharia bill would be worded, would it have to decide how to word it, would it just say all laws would be null and void? What about parking laws etc which aren't covered by the Koran?
So would they amend every act to reflect sharia? That would take decades and probably bankrupt the nation.
The bill they decide on would go to the commons, be debated, and then they'd have to win the vote, then the bill will go before the Lords.
The lords would have to vote on it and agree that it should be passed.
Then it goes before the monarch who has the final say.
Now traditionally the monarch always signs bills into law, however they do not have to, so they could disolve parliment and force a general election.