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The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
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Old 14-04-2010, 13:42   #31
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 1

Nice to see the Labour Party campaigning on policies, not personalities - Telegraph
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He also accused Mr Cameron of "looking down his toffee nose" at the country's regions, warning that Tory plans to close down regional development agencies would cost jobs and investment.
Am I alone in thinking "that's bloody rich" coming from Baron Mandelson, of Foy in the County of Herefordshire and of Hartlepool in the County of Durham?

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How about:

...snippety snip snip.

Now I am sure there are many self-interested people who will not agree that all these things have been a success, but not a bad list really.
Thanks for that, but I was wondering why the Labour Party weren't campaigning on those "successes"?
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Old 14-04-2010, 13:44   #32
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 1

I have no idea, but then the Tories are not exactly setting the world alight with reasons to vote for them. They are more interested in telling everyone why the shouldn't vote for anyone else, which doesn't give many a reason to choose Conservative.
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 1

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How about:

* Introduced a smoking ban in all enclosed spaces including pubs, restaurants and offices.

* Abolition of section 28.

* Relative Peace in Northern Ireland.

* Civil partnerships

* Free bus travel nationwide for the over 60s

* Free NHS prescriptions and eye sight tests for the over 60s

* Devolved power to Scotland

* Paid paternity leave for dads for the first time

* Tax-free Winter Fuel Payment to every pensioner household.

* Free central heating for everyone receiving Pension Credit.

* Restored London Government

* Free TV licenses for over 75s

* Free breast cancer screening for those 50-70

* The cleanest beaches, rivers, drinking water and air than at any time since before the industrial revolution.

* Paid maternity leave increased to 52 weeks

* Number of apprenticeships doubled

* 1,100 new schools built or old schools rebuilt good

* Everyone over 60 free access to local swimming pools

* Devolved power to Wales

* Child Benefit increased by 26% since 1997

* Everyone now has the legal right to four week’s paid holiday.

* The largest hospital building programme since the NHS began: 149 hospitals built or being built, the Tories built one.

* Tax free personal allowances for pensioners now at least £9,030.

* There are 85,000 more nurses and 32,000 more doctors in the NHS than in 1997.

* Nurses pay increased by 58%

* Free bus travel for disabled people.

* The minimum wage.
I have reduced the list. Taking out ones which are controversial, open to interpretation (i.e more police on streets) or ones that could be considered part of a international trend (i.e cancer survival rates).
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 1

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How about:

<snip>

Now I am sure there are many self-interested people who will not agree that all these things have been a success, but not a bad list really.
Shame about the record on Civil Liberties though...
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 1

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Shame about the record on Civil Liberties though...
Not to mention illegal wars and the economy......

As popular as it may be to some, it's really not that difficult to chuck money at issues is it?? The difficult bit is ensuring that what money is spent a) is spent wisely, b) represents value for money, c) has the desired effect, and d) has been 'earned' NOT just borrowed or printed so that future generations pick up the tab.
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Not to mention illegal wars and the economy......
TBH, I doubt the Tories would have fared much better on those ones.
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Shame about the record on Civil Liberties though...
Oh well, can't have everything.
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TBH, I doubt the Tories would have fared much better on those ones.
They couldn't have done any worse...
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 1

Well just choosing one; The National Minimum Wage.
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 1

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How about:

* Introduced a smoking ban in all enclosed spaces including pubs, restaurants and offices. - excellent

* Abolition of section 28. - excellent

* Relative Peace in Northern Ireland (strange, you don't mention all the work the Tory Party did previous to 1997)

* A vastly improved NHS service - debatable; better funded yes, "vastly improved" not so sure

* Lowest UK murder rate for over 20 years - excellent; back to the lows of when the Tories were in power - well done, Labour....

* Civil partnerships -excellent

* 14,000 more police officers on the streets - 14k more officers, on the streets, perhaps not...

* Free bus travel nationwide for the over 60s - which local councils can't afford

* Free NHS prescriptions and eye sight tests for the over 60s -excellent

* Scrapped the majority of hereditary peers in the House of Lords - and still appointing new Lords (mostly Labour, funnily enough).

* Debt of poor countries written off - good

* Matrons are back ! - woo hoo!

* Cancer death rates down by 14 per cent - but still the lowest survivability rate in Europe

* Devolved power to Scotland - Yes, that's worked so well, hasn't it?

* Paid paternity leave for dads for the first time - good

* Abolition of anti-discrimination legisilation. - you sure you mean abolition?

* Ban on fox hunting and hunting with hounds of deer, hares, mink and organised hare coursing. - excellent use of commons time.

* 24 hour drinking laws, sale of alcohol on a Sunday - erm.......

* Tax-free Winter Fuel Payment to every pensioner household. - even those who don't need it, otherwise good.

* Free central heating for everyone receiving Pension Credit. - good

Environmental legisilation. - could you be more specific?

* 36,000 more teachers than in 1997, 172,000 more classroom assistants

* Restored London Government (then lost it )

* Introduced statutory rights for union recognition. Part-time workers have the same rights as full-time workers thanks to Labour. - woo, and indeed, hoo.

* Free TV licenses for over 75s - meh

* Fur farming banned

* Free breast cancer screening for those 50-70

* The cleanest beaches, rivers, drinking water and air than at any time since before the industrial revolution.

* Paid maternity leave increased to 52 weeks

* Number of apprenticeships doubled

* 1,100 new schools built or old schools rebuilt good - cough, cough, PFI

* Record numbers in further and higher education - funding just cut

* Fewer working days lost due to industrial action than under the previous government - Yes, funny that.

* Equal rights for agency workers (pay, holidays etc)

* Everyone over 60 free access to local swimming pools

* Devolved power to Wales

* There are more police on our streets than ever before, up 14,000 since 1997 - I am sure you have already mentioned that

* Gay adoption - good

* Child Benefit increased by 26% since 1997 - how much has inflation risen since 1997?

* Everyone now has the legal right to four week’s paid holiday. - excellent

* The largest hospital building programme since the NHS began: 149 hospitals built or being built, the Tories built one. - cough, cough, PFI

* Police pay up 27% in real terms

* Changes to Vehicle Excise Duty - sales of low-emission cars now outstrips gas guzzlers

* Tax free personal allowances for pensioners now at least £9,030.

* There are 85,000 more nurses and 32,000 more doctors in the NHS than in 1997.

* Nurses pay increased by 58%

* Record number of NHS operations

* Free bus travel for disabled people.

* The minimum wage.

Now I am sure there are many self-interested people who will not agree that all these things have been a success, but not a bad list really.
So anyone who disagrees with you is "self-interested"?

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I have no idea, but then the Tories are not exactly setting the world alight with reasons to vote for them. They are more interested in telling everyone why the shouldn't vote for anyone else, which doesn't give many a reason to choose Conservative.
You really are shameless, aren't you?
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They couldn't have done any worse...
Hardly a convincing argument
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Hardly a convincing argument
Wasn't supposed to be... just an observation....

It's harder to judge the parties who haven't been in power than the one which has...
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 1

Here is a guide to the Party's standing on Civil Liberties

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...ur&col3=libdem
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Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 1

Re increases in services - could it possibly, just possibly, be connected to the fact that in 1997 total Government budget was £318 billion, and in 2010 it was £661 billion (Net Public Debt was £348 billion in 97, and forecast to be £777 billion in 2010).
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Well just choosing one; The National Minimum Wage.
Another? Gay Adoption.
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