Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
25-02-2010, 17:04
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
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i think they should concentrate sorting the issues on for 50mb users before causing more problems on the network.
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A launch of 100Mbit will not cause any additional problems on the network.
Upgrades in preparation for 100Mbit should alleviate the congestion issues being seen on the upstream.
This will in no way affect ongoing work on any disconnection issues that there may be, the people who would be troubleshooting those aren't the same ones who would handle new tiers.
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Course TrustedReviews has just pointed out something I hadn't considered....
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Also remember Ben that all the routers that have been handed out thusfar have a 100Mbit WAN port, won't be capable of delivering a 100Mbit service appropriately so you may well be right about it being a new tier.
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25-02-2010, 17:07
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
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Also remember Ben that all the routers that have been handed out thusfar have a 100Mbit WAN port, won't be capable of delivering a 100Mbit service appropriately so you may well be right about it being a new tier.
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Well the DOCSIS 3 modems have 1Gb port, so it wouldn't be too difficult to swap bits over for a 50Mbit customer upgrading
Have a feeling though it's going to have to be something like the LAN over mains thing for anyone wanting the full speed
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25-02-2010, 17:11
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
This is amusing though, from the newsgroups, the first post on the subject:
Think Broadband, comments on the news story
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Posted by Locky about 6 hours ago
no mention of upstream... typical even tho the fttc has a max of 10 meg i dont think virgins 100 meg will come close to that...
Posted by whatever2 about 4 hours ago
what's the upload?
Posted by doowles about 4 hours ago
Anyone know the upload speeds?
Posted by CARPETBURN about 3 hours ago
Agreed with others though upstream will also be important with regards to future fibre based services, Virgin now need to concentrate on that.
Posted by Drefsab about 2 hours ago
As a virgin customer the only reason I have their 50mbit line over say a 20mbit isnt the head line speed its the faster upload and lack of draconian traffic management policies.
I want to use my line when I want it not a fraction of a time a day. 50mbit means I can burst my usage when I need it and the rest of the month use not much at all. I will only switch for a significant upstream boost or to keep a clean connection.
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As I said above, 50Mbit -> 100Mbit downstream is just a willy wave for the press, 50 is ample at this time for all applications, it's the other direction where the most significant information will be and for those who aren't heavy newsgroup users will be the deal closer.
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Well the DOCSIS 3 modems have 1Gb port, so it wouldn't be too difficult to swap bits over for a 50Mbit customer upgrading
Have a feeling though it's going to have to be something like the LAN over mains thing for anyone wanting the full speed
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I was thinking more of cost Ben. Not feasible as a tier uplift if you have to send tens of thousands of new routers out.
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25-02-2010, 17:11
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
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As I don't see a thread for it at the moment:
http://bit.ly/8YZnEt
Virgin Media, the UK's leading internet service provider, today announced it would begin the roll-out of a 100Mb broadband service, the fastest available commercial product in the UK, by the end of 2010
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100 meg thats nothing check my speed today.
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25-02-2010, 17:38
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25-02-2010, 17:50
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
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i think they should concentrate sorting the issues on for 50mb users before causing more problems on the network.
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Yep there bad
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25-02-2010, 20:31
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
I want 100Mbps downstream and 100Mbps upstream (Unlimited Usage Allowance and non traffic management) at the price of £100 a month please!
Bring it over at Telford
P.S. Virgin Media, please do not ask for activation fee and installation charge of £100 one off fee !
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25-02-2010, 20:41
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
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I want 100Mbps downstream and 100Mbps upstream (Unlimited Usage Allowance and non traffic management) at the price of £100 a month please!
Bring it over at Telford
P.S. Virgin Media, please do not ask for activation fee and installation charge of £100 one off fee !
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+1 for Telford
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25-02-2010, 20:49
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
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Originally Posted by telfordcable
I want 100Mbps downstream and 100Mbps upstream (Unlimited Usage Allowance and non traffic management) at the price of £100 a month please!
Bring it over at Telford
P.S. Virgin Media, please do not ask for activation fee and installation charge of £100 one off fee !
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It won't be symmetrical. It won't be a hundred quid a month. To be prepared to pay 100 pounds a month but not want to pay an activation fee of 100 pounds is odd.
100Mbit will be released everywhere that's on the network though.
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25-02-2010, 20:50
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
Well considering it's using the same modem as 50Mbit I'm guessing (and don't quote me here) that it shouldn't cost any more to install/activate than 50Mbit
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26-02-2010, 00:23
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
How about they upgrade the upload speeds to 10mb instead.
This silly willy waving about how amazing we are with such amazing download speeds. They are not needed..50mb is sufficient...Upload is more important to upgrade atm.
whats the upload going to be for 100mb....2.5 mb ? That would be stupid.
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26-02-2010, 08:13
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
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How about they upgrade the upload speeds to 10mb instead.
This silly willy waving about how amazing we are with such amazing download speeds. They are not needed..50mb is sufficient...Upload is more important to upgrade atm.
whats the upload going to be for 100mb....2.5 mb ? That would be stupid.
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Considering VM are doing 10Mb upload trials I see it been more that 2.5Mb.
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Yep there bad

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Thats is so bad.
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26-02-2010, 08:29
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
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Considering VM are doing 10Mb upload trials I see it been more that 2.5Mb.
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Show me the product. VM can trial 200Mbit fibre to the rectum for all I care, show me the product.
Isn't it? 1.35Mbps upstream on over 50Mbps downstream, a ratio of 37:1 and not enough to actually max the downstream without TCP acknowledgement suppression and cumulative acknowledgement. Pretty bad.
Yes I had to disturb the love fest over 50Mbps speed tests
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26-02-2010, 09:11
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
100Mbps is going to be a new cable modem again (maybe other charge at £100 for the modem) and activation fee with installation charge could be addition too.
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26-02-2010, 09:37
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Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
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100Mbps is going to be a new cable modem again
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No it's not.
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