Â£15 extra tax on car fines - Page 3

Flyboy · 03-01-2010, 11:12

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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Flyboy, did I say that someone falling out of a wheelchair is undeserving of compensation?
No.
We live sadly in a large selfish society, where no matter what is thrown at people they ignore the consequences.
The other day alone I spotted two able bodied people parking in disabled bays at the front of an asda, would the thought of being caught and hammered with a Â£60 fine stop them? if it did you could guarantee that within five minutes of them driving off someone else would do the same thing.
Sorry, its a stealth tax, nothing less, and the real issue is not being tackled.

Should selfish people not be punished for breaking the law? Should they not pay compensation to victims?

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Originally Posted by Gary L

But that is a 'crime' that you have commited yourself. but are punished by having to pay for somebody elses crime. a crime that is totally unrelated to you and your car.
that isn't what justice is about. it's not even what the law is either.

Try telling that tot the people who have been injured, or the families of those who have been killed, by speeding drivers.

Before the bandwagon starts up, about the causes of accidents and speed, it is a given that the chances if injury and death are greatly reduced the slower the vehicle is moving.

Gary L · 03-01-2010, 11:17

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Try telling that tot the people who have been injured, or the families of those who have been killed, by speeding drivers.

Have you forgotten what the extra Â£15 is for?

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Motorists guilty of minor 'crimes' such as parking misdemeanours are to be hit with a Â£15 surcharge to help victims of domestic violence or sex attacks.

Flyboy · 03-01-2010, 11:21

That was a newspaper's reportage. The money collected from these "surcharges" is not specifically earmarked for those instances. These support services are part of a collection of funding destinations.

Gary L · 03-01-2010, 11:29

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

That was a newspaper's reportage. The money collected from these "surcharges" is not specifically earmarked for those instances. These support services are part of a collection of funding destinations.

If you went to court on a driving charge and was told that you have to pay the normal fine associated with that charge plus an extra Â£15 to pay towards the woman who got beat up by her boyfriend. you'd say this isn't justice.
but we'll let it happen because we're all the crazy British.

They'll put an extra Â£15 on everyone who works, council tax soon. it'll be to pay for the victims of road accidents.
an extra Â£15 on your TV licence. it'll be to pay for the victims of flooding.

haydnwalker · 03-01-2010, 18:43

I agree with Gary on this actually. Why should a MOTORIST pay for crimes completely unrelated to motoring...

I could understand if for example Mr A attacked Ms X, was caught and got a particular sentence including costs plus the Â£15 surcharge to help victims of such crimes. But they target motorists yet again because they don't know who else to take it from!

papa smurf · 03-01-2010, 18:47

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Originally Posted by haydnwalker

I agree with Gary on this actually. Why should a MOTORIST pay for crimes completely unrelated to motoring...

I could understand if for example Mr A attacked Ms X, was caught and got a particular sentence including costs plus the Â£15 surcharge to help victims of such crimes. But they target motorists yet again because they don't know who else to take it from!

what if we all choose not to pay and insist on prison instead ?

haydnwalker · 03-01-2010, 18:55

Well...I won't pay because I don't break the law

papa smurf · 03-01-2010, 18:57

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Originally Posted by haydnwalker

Well...I won't pay because I don't break the law

we could all do it to stick it to the man [i heard that on tv

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Flyboy · 03-01-2010, 19:39

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Originally Posted by haydnwalker

I agree with Gary on this actually. Why should a MOTORIST pay for crimes completely unrelated to motoring...

I could understand if for example Mr A attacked Ms X, was caught and got a particular sentence including costs plus the Â£15 surcharge to help victims of such crimes. But they target motorists yet again because they don't know who else to take it from!

Because if you break the law, why should you get a choice. The simplest answer is not to break the law.

Gary L · 03-01-2010, 19:45

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Because if you break the law, why should you get a choice. The simplest answer is not to break the law.

Don't bite people!

Mr Angry · 03-01-2010, 20:08

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Originally Posted by haydnwalker

I agree with Gary on this actually. Why should a MOTORIST pay for crimes completely unrelated to motoring...

I could understand if for example Mr A attacked Ms X, was caught and got a particular sentence including costs plus the Â£15 surcharge to help victims of such crimes. But they target motorists yet again because they don't know who else to take it from!

For the record I categorically deny ever having attacked Ms X.

papa smurf · 03-01-2010, 20:11

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry

For the record I categorically deny ever having attacked Ms X.

didn't president Clinton say something similar

SMG · 03-01-2010, 20:16

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

didn't president Clinton say something similar

He certainly did, the dirty lucky devil!

Peter_ · 03-01-2010, 20:20

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

didn't president Clinton say something similar

Toto · 04-01-2010, 05:44

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Don't bite people!

But he is spot on.

These additional fines count for naught if people drove within the speed limit and parked their vehicles responsibly.

Yes, the government is targeting drivers again.....BAD DRIVERS. The simple fact of the matter is, they are easy targets because the never learn.