The dangers of sunbed misuse

Originally Posted by lauzjp

a 15 year old can get the pill and have a baby, but a 14 year old can't have the brain capacity to know when to stop using a sun bed?

To be honest I don't care about the ages of whomever is using the stupid sunbed I'm just concerned that a dangerous machine in unmanned during it's use..What if the thing malfunctions while someone is using it?

Anything to save paying a wage and cutting corners on H&S..

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

While they should *both* be aware of the potential problems of even controlled use of sunbeds, and the daughter should have been aware that she shouldn't go over the limit (even without seeing signs and never having been on a sunbed, I knew that you shouldn't go over the limit), and the daughter should have been aware that it takes a while to tan, it's a little strong to say that the mother is a bad parent or has zero parenting skills. As far as we know, the mother made ONE mistake. She may not have even done that. She may have been unaware that her daughter was using sunbeds.

Assuming you have kids, have you ever told them how to use Sunbeds correctly? If you haven't, does that make you a bad parent? It's not something I can recall my mum telling me, and she certainly wasn't a bad parent.

I still don't like the idea of unmanned salons though, and find it staggering that we have a government that is happy to allow people to expose themselves to fairly high levels of radiation using devices that have been known to cause cancer in unsupervised environments, but is happy to ban things that are a lot safer.

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She may get it if the health and safety executive find that there were no clearly visible signs in the shop stating that before she used a sunbed. You can bet your bottom dollar there are signs there now.

My highlighted part of your post is the bit I was aiming at Stuart.

Parents of children should know where their children are and what they are doing. Quite clearly her mother didn't or I'm sure she would have given her suitable advice (YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THEM!! )

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by lauzjp

a 15 year old can get the pill and have a baby, but a 14 year old can't have the brain capacity to know when to stop using a sun bed?

only if the medical practitioner ( note that a real person not an unatended medical robot ) decides they are capable of understanding what they are doing

and 12 year olds have had babies but i doubt you would say they were old enough to have one

the law in this country says those under 18 cant normaly enter a contract unless normaly a court or in some cases a competant person decides they are capable of knowing what they are doing ( again real people )

unattended tanning saloons in my view ( and a bet a court would hold the same one ) will have no defense against a claim for damages for an under 18 child wo is injuered and i can see a posibilty of even criminal charges for reckless endangerment

could even be a child protection problem for them as if a 14 year old can get in there i cant see what would stop even younger children some of whom would be quite capable of operateing this sort of equipement.

i personaly see no diference here to say if some one left a kitchen open to use at a charge with all the ineherent dangers with nothing to stop kids using it !

i am all for personal responsibilty and teaching it to kids but that doesnt involve leaving them alone with dangerous equipement

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Originally Posted by Julian

My highlighted part of your post is the bit I was aiming at Stuart.

Parents of children should know where their children are and what they are doing. Quite clearly her mother didn't or I'm sure she would have given her suitable advice (YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THEM!! )

parent may have know roughly where she was but at 14 i would not expect my child who say had told me she was going to town with friends to tell me every shop she was going in

what i would expect is for the shops in town to be relatively safe and say for instance have things in place to say stop her playing in the kitchen area with hot things that could burn her !

i personally would be against her using sunbeds but some are not but even those i would expect that the use of them would be seen to be safe by some real person during the time they let a hild be out with out them.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Julian

My highlighted part of your post is the bit I was aiming at Stuart.

Parents of children should know where their children are and what they are doing. Quite clearly her mother didn't or I'm sure she would have given her suitable advice (YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THEM!! )

So, you know *exactly* where your kids are and what they are doing at all times? Most parents, in my experience, don't.

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by punky

I'm disappointed this bloke is going to be run into the ground over this. The girl read - and - ignored clear safety warnings. You can't protect everyone from themselves as some would have you believe.

agree totally. Natural Selection was testing the water on her there... He'll be back...

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

So, you know *exactly* where your kids are and what they are doing at all times? Most parents, in my experience, don't.

the girl is 14 and therefore it matters not whether she understood or not mainly because there was no one there to decide if she was capable of doing so

not all 14 year olds are the same which is why we have the age of consent for MOST things set at 18

i am not saying they should not take responsibility for things they do BUT when it comes to things that can be dangerous that they are not using on a daily basis ( so i am not saying they should be kept away from all danger ) then there should be an adult there to asses whether they are capable of using or doing this sort of thing

( wondering if i can get away with opening an unatended gun club with a book at front to sign they know what they are doing to absolve my self from any risk )

[rogerdraig]

it happens again

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/8028898.stm

[altis]

In Wales again... hmmmm.

What is it about these girls?

[Russ]

I don't think it's specific to Wales but last time I was out in Swansea there were a LOT of orange-faced teens.

[rogerdraig]

they are young and impresionable whichis why there should be adults looking after this equipment

even the Sunbed Association says they dont think that they sould be unattended and wont let those shops join them

[superbiatch]

I've never been to a tanning salon where you put coins in a machine. You tend to pay the staff and they allocate you minutes, after going through a thorough check on skin type, moles etc.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by superbiatch

I've never been to a tanning salon where you put coins in a machine. You tend to pay the staff and they allocate you minutes, after going through a thorough check on skin type, moles etc.

I used to go to one a lot until I found out what I thought was a birthmark on the back of my head was actually a large mole. I was never quizzed about it.

Saying that though there is a tanning salon in Port Talbot which is coin operated.

[superbiatch]

Originally Posted by Russ B

I used to go to one a lot until I found out what I thought was a birthmark on the back of my head was actually a large mole. I was never quizzed about it.

Saying that though there is a tanning salon in Port Talbot which is coin operated.

I suppose it depends on the shop then eh? But then again, i've walked in some over the years and walked straight back out because of the state of the place - before even seeing if the beds were coin operated

[Russ]

I've just found out that the coin-operated salon in Port Talbot is the very one at the centre of this latest story.

10 years old for gods sake??