Watch your job - Page 3

**Damien** · 30-01-2009, 22:15

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

all very noble and fair -until its your job gone or the chance of a job gone

i think our local workers have sent a clear message to europe and it ends in off

There will be less jobs, not more, if we shun Europe.

Sir John Luke · 30-01-2009, 22:24

1930s and National Socialism/Oswald Mosley, etc anyone? That's what happened last time protectionism raised its head, after the 'Great Depression'.

Tezcatlipoca · 30-01-2009, 22:27

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

i think our local workers have sent a clear message to europe and it ends in off

Is that message aimed at Europe in general, or just certain aspects of EU membership? Or all aspects of EU membership?

Or perhaps we should tell Total (& all the other European, & American, & Asian, etc.) companies operating in the UK to "ends in off" & let them go home & give jobs to their own people? With all these strikes in France, maybe a French company should be giving jobs only to the French...

If we force companies to employ only British workers, how does that work? Do we just ignore EU rules? Do we pull out of the EU completely? Do we allow some EU workers here, but only in certain industries or areas? Do we force companies to accept bids which are less competitive than ones they would have otherwise accepted, which may then affect the business, & maybe then make them think "we should 'ends in off' out of here before it costs us even more"?

How would we do it?

chris9991 · 30-01-2009, 22:28

It could be argued that the economic troubles in the 1970's in this country were caused by protectionism to. With the only thing saving us being North Sea gas coming on stream.

**Damien** · 30-01-2009, 22:50

To be honest, I think people are just preconditioned to blame problems on an external source. In this case other countries. I am not sure if any of the people who suggest these companies should go elsewhere actually have much of an idea of what that would entail.

Xan · 30-01-2009, 23:04

Lol at the people who thinks lowest contacts wins (tenders should be scraped look at the nhs coulds add more)

british jobs for british workers

Arthurgray50@blu · 30-01-2009, 23:05

It was shown earlier this week, a photo in the national press, where THREE foriegn workers going into work, sticking there fingers up at us, now if this is not stirring up trouble, l don't know what it.

And the main problem is, that major companies are, and still will use agency workers, as they know that, the worker who will turn up will be foriegn, and these people know, that they can get rid of them quite easily, as they know there is someone who will fill that place, Major companies in the UK, will carry on doing this, as they know that the so called PM, won't stop it.

The PM made a statement quite recently, BRITISH JOBS, NEED BRITISH WORKERS, but will that happen NO, as he won't want to upset these companies, what we need to do, is the next by election, choose a new MP, that is NOT Labour, Labour used to be a party for the workers of this country, and yet look where it has got us.

I have a sneeky feeling, that within the next couple of weeks, all the unions in this country, will say enough, is enough, and call on the country to march onto London, and there will be a total closure to show that we need to stick up for our man or woman, - l think l will stand as a MP, who will support me, l will get this country running again.

Tezcatlipoca · 30-01-2009, 23:07

Do you have a link to the photo? Who/what were they sticking their fingers up at? Us, or the tabloid photographer?

Do you think the Tories would be a party for the workers of this country?

Xan · 30-01-2009, 23:15

labour is a joke if your white male dont go for promotion!!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/16/race.gender

LondonRoad · 30-01-2009, 23:29

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Originally Posted by Xan

Lol at the people who thinks lowest contacts wins (tenders should be scraped look at the nhs coulds add more)

british jobs for british workers

The tendering process is essential. What is often the problem is that the tender isn't specific enough. This allows bidders to place bids on a different basis.

It is very easy to place binding, and legal, terms in a contract. The present dispute wouldn't be happening if the original tender was correctly worded.

Xan · 30-01-2009, 23:30

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Originally Posted by Matt D

Do you have a link to the photo? Who/what were they sticking their fingers up at? Us, or the tabloid photographer?

Do you think the Tories would be a party for the workers of this country?

must have been the photographer

Arthurgray50@blu · 30-01-2009, 23:34

Hi MattD, unfortunately, l don't have a link, but it has been on national Tv and in the press, not unless, someone else knows about it, But all my info comes from the media.

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[Hi Xan, NO the Tories support only one group and that is the rich, and that includes all the major companies, they won't give a damn about the British worker, as long as they work there nuts off, to fill there pockets.

I should be a politican

Xan · 30-01-2009, 23:40

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Originally Posted by harmitage

The tendering process is essential. What is often the problem is that the tender isn't specific enough. This allows bidders to place bids on a different basis.

It is very easy to place binding, and legal, terms in a contract. The present dispute wouldn't be happening if the original tender was correctly worded.

highlight(contract) a main tender olympic games what happened?we need another 12 bil

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tenders = the one that bids the less wins = cheapest workers = who cares i'm in a **** job

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Hi MattD, unfortunately, l don't have a link, but it has been on national Tv and in the press, not unless, someone else knows about it, But all my info comes from the media.

---------- Post added at 23:34 ---------- Previous post was at 23:31 ----------

[Hi Xan, NO the Tories support only one group and that is the rich, and that includes all the major companies, they won't give a damn about the British worker, as long as they work there nuts off, to fill there pockets.

I should be a politican

never said i supported the torrries?did i

LondonRoad · 30-01-2009, 23:49

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Originally Posted by Xan

tenders = the one that bids the less wins = cheapest workers = who cares i'm in a **** job
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My point exactly. You can include in the tendering process, both the minimum wage to be paid and absolute adherence to all existing employment and trade union agreements.

It is the tendering process that is at fault if this can be bypassed.

Xan · 30-01-2009, 23:54

minimum wage is a joke topped up by the tax payer? meaning i pay for that contarct in a way(tax credits)