Is this allowed? - Page 3

ian@huth · 24-07-2005, 15:19

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Originally Posted by simpsonsFAN

Anyway thats irrelevent, I know I am not "affecting network performance" because I know that no one else on my street has NTL broadband.
-Chris

So you have your own personal UBR card then? I very much doubt it.

24-07-2005, 15:20

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Originally Posted by simpsonsFAN

I dont force them to take my broadband, living in a quite closed community and without much knoweledge of computers they trust me to make the right decisions for them. I know for a fact that some of them cannot afford 3mbit NTL broadband at 37.99 a month. That is 455pounds a year that on a pension they dont have!
-Chris

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I give out my 3MB ntl broadband connection to people in my street at 10pounds a month each, but I put them all on the lowest QoS bandwith manedgement setting my router has, so that way I can still use winmx and surf digitalspy while my neighbours enjoy there supposed "broadband" internet

3 meg
But you use qos to lower it so its not 3 meg. ?

ian@huth · 24-07-2005, 15:23

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Originally Posted by simpsonsFAN

I dont force them to take my broadband, living in a quite closed community and without much knoweledge of computers they trust me to make the right decisions for them. I know for a fact that some of them cannot afford 3mbit NTL broadband at 37.99 a month. That is 455pounds a year that on a pension they dont have!
-Chris

The right decision would have been for you to tell them that they could have their own 1Mb connection for ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£9.99 per month with NTL which would include their own webspace and email addresses. I bet you don't even allow them to use even 1Mb of your service.

Paul K · 24-07-2005, 15:24

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Originally Posted by simpsonsFAN

I dont force them to take my broadband, living in a quite closed community and without much knoweledge of computers they trust me to make the right decisions for them. I know for a fact that some of them cannot afford 3mbit NTL broadband at 37.99 a month. That is 455pounds a year that on a pension they dont have!
-Chris

Maybe they should try asking NTL about it's 1Mb then instead of trusting someone who is breeching the Ts and Cs of his service contract with NTL and who could get everyone involved into trouble with NTL for theft of service.
There is no excuse for exploiting pensionners for personal gain in my opinion and you are not providing them with a true 3Mb service if you are restricting them through the QOS settings on your router.

marky · 24-07-2005, 15:25

i wonder if any of them are reading this

Roy MM · 24-07-2005, 15:34

Pimping of pensioners, now that is pretty low

simpsonsFAN · 24-07-2005, 15:42

The QOS is only to prevent things like downloads destroying the connection for things like VoIP and web browsing, and although I do put them on the low piority on the router, I also have a cproxy web cache running and a windows server 2003 DNS nameserver running seperatly, as a resault total web browsing traffic never even touches on 5GB /month and non http traffic never goes over 20GB /month. So I always stay well within the 30GB monthly useage allowance set by NTL.

I did advise on other ISPs to start with but at the time there wernt any 9.99 for 1mb deals in place, so I just put a small amount of my connection aside. They are more than happy with there current setup and the way that when they break stuff (and they do break stuff) they know I am only next door to come help.

While this is all Very touching stuff im sure... I know im not the only person to do this, the thread on DS had at least 5 or 6 people who had just stated that they share there connection with there neibour(s) and shared the bills, it was me who bore the blunt of the assult because someone has a problem with me.

Since when is it cableforums job to judge how I use my connection or to interfear in matters that I would have never mentioned myself on here?
-Chris

punky · 24-07-2005, 15:45

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Originally Posted by simpsonsFAN

I know for a fact that some of them cannot afford 3mbit NTL broadband at 37.99 a month. That is 455pounds a year that on a pension they dont have!
-Chris

They might not be able to afford 38 quid a month, but then can afford 10 quid a month, I presume, as that is what you are milking them for. I don't suppose you'll have a chat with them and tell them what they can get for 10 quid would you?

And it is touching to know that despite paying for a 1/3rd of your service, you ensuring they don't even get that.

Paul K · 24-07-2005, 15:46

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Originally Posted by simpsonsFAN

Since when is it cableforums job to judge how I use my connection or to interfear in matters that I would have never mentioned myself on here?
-Chris

This forum has always had a blunt response to people advocating theft of service to the best of my knowledge.

24-07-2005, 15:51

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Originally Posted by simpsonsFAN

Since when is it cableforums job to judge how I use my connection or to interfere in matters that I would have never mentioned myself on here?
-Chris

But it would be wrong for a NTL person not to take notice of what could and i say could be seen as Fraud Depending on how you look at this.

I can tell you now that my policy is and always has been to report Fraud when i find it. I have to feed my family and i will not be able to do that if NTL went bust because of people ripping NTL off.

Waits for how can i sharing my connection make NTL go bust. Look at the big picture.

AndrewJ · 24-07-2005, 15:53

I just hope you get d/c and then the old people your ripping off, can find out what a lying two bit theiveng **** you are.

They are getting less perfromance then a 100k connection and your rolling it in.

NTL should remove you and fine you in my book.!

Jules · 24-07-2005, 15:54

I can not believe he can do this to old people, he goes on about they can't afford stuff on a pension then he goes and rips them off!

Millay · 24-07-2005, 16:01

Its a shame, that these pensioners are being riped off, giving it to them free is the only way you could advocate what your doing. And your not sharing the bills with a neighbour, which again whilst against t&c's I dont see anything wrong with it.

You are making money from a vulnerable part of society which is disgusting.

**Mick** · 24-07-2005, 16:02

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Originally Posted by simpsonsFAN

Since when is it cableforums job to judge how I use my connection or to interfear in matters that I would have never mentioned myself on here?
-Chris

I beg your pardon? When you say 'cableforums job' that infers the team. Your right, it is not our job to interfere but when you publicly broadcast what you do with your connection, no matter on which website, you cannot expect not to be open to criticism.

Also, I would appreciate it if you would not resort to name calling.

simpsonsFAN · 24-07-2005, 16:04

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Originally Posted by Paul

This forum has always had a blunt response to people advocating theft of service to the best of my knowledge.

Yes it has, cableforum is one of the few open forums that can achally sufficantly moderate there boards, But I assure you I am not stealing any service from ntl, only selling what they provide me with.

If I buy a apple in a shop with a sticker on it that says "do not resell", then I cut it up and sell the bits of the apple... Then tell me, Did I steal the apple?

I resent any comment saying I am comitting fraud or theft as it is simply not true, If I did have to personally defend myself against NTL (and I dont btw), I would ague that If they are not taking reasonable mesures to actively enforce there terms and conditions, then they are as good as worthless (not that I at all defend those who use hacked modems to steal service, etc, that is compleatly different).

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Also, I would appreciate it if you would not resort to name calling.

I dont belive I did?

If I did I apologize, must have been a heat of the moment thing..
-Chris