Any BB progress in S.London? - Page 3

Dizzy · 21-10-2003, 17:03

I'm going to try and help here, i am ntl staff and used to work for the team in London responsible for upgrading it to Broadband. I will only give information I know to be true and will not get drawn into debate or speculation into what future plans have.

Over the last 12-18 months work has been carried out to make parts of South London Broadband serviceable. The reasons you have problems finding out which areas have been upgraded is because we use different terminology internally when releasing areas to Broadband and this is not easily translated into postcodes or geographic areas.

Basically 9 'job areas' have been released which equals about 90,000 homes, this sounds like a lot and in many respects is, however it is a mere drop in the ocean compared to the number of homes that still need to be upgraded. ntl is comitted to upgrading the rest of London but as you have already seen this takes a long time.

I will try to obtain a list of postcodes for anyone who is interested but it will be far to many to post. Once I have got hold of this I will update you and you can PM me for it

21-10-2003, 17:59

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Originally Posted by Dizzy

I'm going to try and help here, i am ntl staff and used to work for the team in London responsible for upgrading it to Broadband. I will only give information I know to be true and will not get drawn into debate or speculation into what future plans have...

Nice to hear from you Dizzy and welcome.

Now, are you in a position to explain exactly what the nature of the problem is?

1. Is it the qualitiy of exVideotron network cabling to the homes of customers?

2. Is it that the street green boxes have to be updated?

3. Is it just that funds are limited and little is set aside for development?

Can you provide any firm answers to these questions.

From one who is even more dizzy.

Dizzy · 21-10-2003, 22:15

Hi Gogogo

I'll be honest with you, I am not technical enough to go into detail about the issues with the ex-videotron network but you are basically right on all 3 counts. none of the ex-vcl network in London (other than the upgraded areas) can currently support broadband, the team that have conducted the upgrades so far first go in and survey in detail each area and ascertain what exactly needs to be done, in some cases this turns out to be the cabling in the street needs to be relayed but in most cases its the green cabinets that need upgrading, rebuilding etc, they have carried out these surveys right across london.
There is funding for this work but but it is limited as i'm sure you can imagine ntl has to be careful where it spends its money at the moment and although London is extremely important so is developing new products and remaining competive in the market place.

I believe there currently securing the funding for next years work and I believe (personal opinion not necessarily that of ntl) that once this is sorted you will see a big improvement in London.

22-10-2003, 07:47

Dizzy, thank you for your response.

bigitup_j · 22-10-2003, 09:36

the delay...
ntl aren't that fast. i have to wait for a while...i'll tell you any news as soon as i get it.

gallego1 · 23-10-2003, 09:30

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Originally Posted by Gogogo

Dizzy, thank you for your response.

I agree, Thanks Dizzy

I believe that this is the type of response that was needed. Straight facts.

But I am sure that someone now will contradict Dizzy's last post and confusion will begin again

rippedoff · 06-11-2003, 14:17

There is a new rumour about!
It is that us poor souls in South London may be able to get wireless BB !

Two questions in relation to this rumour

1. Does anyone know if this is fact ?

2. I know there was trials of wireless BB in South London - what happened about the trials - was anybody a trialist - what was the outcome- develop or not to develop?

Cheers..........

(oh PS.... anyone know what IS happening yet in S. London?

Dizzy · 18-11-2003, 11:13

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Originally Posted by rippedoff

There is a new rumour about!
It is that us poor souls in South London may be able to get wireless BB !

Two questions in relation to this rumour

1. Does anyone know if this is fact ?

2. I know there was trials of wireless BB in South London - what happened about the trials - was anybody a trialist - what was the outcome- develop or not to develop?

Cheers..........

(oh PS.... anyone know what IS happening yet in S. London?

This is purely rumour, wireless has been looked at in the past as an option and will no doubt be looked at again in the future but has never got past the drawing board stage even though the trials were relitively successful.

Plans for London are still progressing but as you are more than aware the wheels turn slow

gallego1 · 18-11-2003, 15:46

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Originally Posted by Dizzy

This is purely rumour, wireless has been looked at in the past as an option and will no doubt be looked at again in the future but has never got past the drawing board stage even though the trials were relitively successful.

It this is truly another rumour, why was I told this by a sales rep from ntl about 3 weeks ago

Secondly Why are the sales reps communicating this info if it is not true????

18-11-2003, 16:03

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Originally Posted by gallego1

It this is truly another rumour, why was I told this by a sales rep from ntl about 3 weeks ago Secondly Why are the sales reps communicating this info if it is not true????

Frankly, NTL sales reps tell you anything you want to hear. I've known NTL sales reps tell me Broadband etc coming in six months, this was two years ago. They are still telling people this rubbish. I don't think they know anything except calculating commission.

Undisputedtruth · 19-11-2003, 00:17

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Originally Posted by Gogogo

Frankly, NTL sales reps tell you anything you want to hear. I've known NTL sales reps tell me Broadband etc coming in six months, this was two years ago. They are still telling people this rubbish. I don't think they know anything except calculating commission.

They are replaying the tape of excuses for good ole Videotroners.

rippedoff · 05-12-2003, 14:13

Remember one of the earlier rumours? BB in South London before Christmas 2003!
Well it is nearly Christmas, and no sign whatsoever of BB arriving!
New Year Resolution must be to move to Sky/BT package!

Have a Merry Christmas one and all!

**Chris** · 05-12-2003, 14:17

Merry Christmas rippedoff

looks like it's still 'coming soon' - I'd get yourself Sky Plus for Christmas to cheer yourself up if I were you.

bigitup_j · 05-12-2003, 14:49

i'm trying to get info out of ntl, through a certain manager, who i shall not name...but he ain't giving anything away!! cursed person, it's been especially "cold" since nthw.com closed! probably scared

all i can say is...'coming soon', he said it was important to get broadband to london...so ntl do recognise the need for bb...which is good, but nothing is happening.

tum-dee-tum

BBKing · 05-12-2003, 16:03

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BB in South London before Christmas 2003!

Well, there is cable BB in ex-VCL South London before Christmas 2003, not all of it admittedly, but nevertheless a true rumour it seems. Worth putting the record straight here.