TV Torrents - Page 3

cookie_365 · 08-05-2005, 21:00

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

Recording shows for personal use is legal.

Sharing them (or acquiring copies which you personally have not recorded) via the internet, is not.

Yes, although the only 'personal use' allowed is that you can watch/listen to them at a more convenient time (i.e. once

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Tristan · 08-05-2005, 21:16

Thanks all for the suggestions guys. Have now got both episodes I missed

As to the other debate this thread has created... what would have happened if I'd knocked on my next-door neighbour's door, and asked him if I could borrow the tape of Dr Who he recorded last saturday?

punky · 08-05-2005, 21:19

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Originally Posted by Tristan

Thanks all for the suggestions guys. Have now got both episodes I missed

As to the other debate this thread has created... what would have happened if I'd knocked on my next-door neighbour's door, and asked him if I could borrow the tape of Dr Who he recorded last saturday?

It is illegal. Auntie owns the sole distribution rights. Your nieghbour giving it to you counts as distribution. Thats why you are allowed to copy it for back up, or later view. You aren't giving it to anyone else so it isn't distribution.

cookie_365 · 08-05-2005, 22:23

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Originally Posted by punky

It is illegal. Auntie owns the sole distribution rights. Your nieghbour giving it to you counts as distribution. Thats why you are allowed to copy it for back up, or later view. You aren't giving it to anyone else so it isn't distribution.

Indeed.

For the record, the law says:

70. The making for private and domestic use of a recording of a broadcast or cable programme solely for the purpose of enabling it to be viewed or listened to at a more convenient time does not infringe any copyright in the broadcast or cable programme or in any work included in it.

**Paul** · 08-05-2005, 22:29

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Originally Posted by cookie_365

[indent][i]70. The making for private and domestic use of a recording of a broadcast or cable programme solely for the purpose of enabling it to be viewed or listened to at a more convenient time does not infringe any copyright in the broadcast or cable programme or in any work included in it.

That does not seem to prohibit you lending it to a neighbour for their domestic use (viewing at a more convienient time).

**Damien** · 08-05-2005, 23:05

The problem is that all these laws are different now that the internet is here. Its amazing to think of a time when the internet did not exist. People not being send messages, view each other, publish material, get instant access to the worlds knowledge.

Either way, the internet is not fully covered and if you are only downloading rather than seeding then it would be hard for a case to be brought against you

08-05-2005, 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien

The problem is that all these laws are different now that the internet is here. Its amazing to think of a time when the internet did not exist. People not being send messages, view each other, publish material, get instant access to the worlds knowledge.

Either way, the internet is not fully covered and if you are only downloading rather than seeding then it would be hard for a case to be brought against you

realistically, if you stopped your upload, how long do you think your download would last?

- a genuine question, btw, I did my first ever torrent download yesterday, it said something like share ratio = 132%, which sounded good?

cookie_365 · 09-05-2005, 17:33

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Originally Posted by Paul M

That does not seem to prohibit you lending it to a neighbour for their domestic use (viewing at a more convienient time).

Yes it does - that wouldn't be 'private'.

zitianaki · 09-05-2005, 18:10

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Originally Posted by Shaun

Another vote for www.uknova.com!

good call alot of uk shows i did not think anyone ripped.

zitianaki · 13-05-2005, 23:17

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5705142.html

btefnet and other bt sites being sued!! thats bad for them

Gareth · 14-05-2005, 09:17

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Originally Posted by Damien

The problem is that all these laws are different now that the internet is here. Its amazing to think of a time when the internet did not exist. People not being send messages, view each other, publish material, get instant access to the worlds knowledge.

...but I remember before the internet existed. I remember when you used a modem to connect to a bbs, and the modem was only 19k.

I tried telling my son the other day that when I was his age, there were only 3 channels on tv and it didn't run 24 hours a day. He couldn't believe that it would switch off at night, or that BBC2 would switch off in the afternoon, or that I'd spend ages watching the test card waiting for the kids' shows to start again.

He refuses to believe however that you used to be able to drive your car to a petrol station and somebody would come outside and fill it up for you, without you having to get out of your car!

...any, back on topic now.

punky · 14-05-2005, 10:53

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Originally Posted by homealone

- a genuine question, btw, I did my first ever torrent download yesterday, it said something like share ratio = 132%, which sounded good?

Yup, that's good. It means you have given 1/3rd more than you have downloaded. The unwritten rule is the minimum it should be is that you upload as much as you download, ie 1:1, and you did 1:1.3 so that's good.

SOSAGES · 16-05-2005, 09:07

with all the torrent sites going down time to learn how irc and the news groups work

OinkyBoinky · 16-05-2005, 15:26

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Originally Posted by SOSAGES

with all the torrent sites going down time to learn how irc and the news groups work

Recently Ive started to use torrents less and less.. i now download almost all of my stuff using www.streamload.com...

Gareth · 17-05-2005, 18:01

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Originally Posted by OinkyBoinky

Recently Ive started to use torrents less and less.. i now download almost all of my stuff using www.streamload.com...

Blimey, is streamload still going? I remember they used to have a freebie account that was good for transferring ebooks and other small-ish files. I never used the paid account though.

Is there much *ahem* questionable stuff on Streamload then?