When will the uS Government wake up????

[Florence]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Changing the subject back on track (sort of)
Anyone got any ideas as to why there are so many of these incidents in the US compared to other countries which also allow gun ownership?

We live in the UK and you are on about another country one that has a long history of having to defend themselves. Where guns have always been a part of their lives.

Who are we to suggest their way of living is right or wrong. In history if they hadn't had the guns to defend themselves they wouldn't be here now. Who is to say 500yrs down the road if that would still be true.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Kits

We live in the UK and you are on about another country one that has a long history of having to defend themselves. Where guns have always been a part of their lives.

Who are we to suggest their way of living is right or wrong. In history if they hadn't had the guns to defend themselves they wouldn't be here now. Who is to say 500yrs down the road if that would still be true.

Um Kits, I'm not saying their wrong to be able to have guns.

I'd just like to know why there are so many incidents like this one in america but not in other countries where gun ownership is allowed?
Is it because the other countries incorporate gun responsibility into their laws (israel for instance allows you to own a gun but you must practice at a range regularly thus making sure you actually know how to treat it whilst in and out of your hand)?
Or is it something else?

[davy51]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Well, one could argue that guns brought freedom from Nazi tyranny in Europe.
Still not sure why something has to have a constructive purpose to exist though...


Changing the subject back on track (sort of)
Anyone got any ideas as to why there are so many of these incidents in the US compared to other countries which also allow gun ownership?

The biggest reason it happen is that you have people that buy guns and then they hide them from children instead of teaching them that a firearm is not a toy.
Most children dont realize what a gun can do because some parents just dont teach them about it
They are afraid the child will say something to someone about it and the parents will be accused of being a violent person.

And in the us at this time its considered in the liberal society to not be politicly correct to attempt to protect yourself from the criminal community.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by davy51

The biggest reason it happen is that you have people that buy guns and then they hide them from children instead of teaching them that a firearm is not a toy.
Most children dont realize what a gun can do because some parents just dont teach them about it
They are afraid the child will say something to someone about it and the parents will be accused of being a violent person.

And in the us at this time its considered in the liberal society to not be politicly correct to attempt to protect yourself from the criminal community.

So that doesn't happen in the other countries then? People are more open/concerned with their children understanding the dangers and uses of firearms? An interesting hypothesis

Been talking to my GF who's south african.
Down there to get a gun licence you need to go through the police for checks (any criminal record denies you the licence), have perfect eyesight, and most people get them for home defence, keeping their gun in a safe hoping it won't ever be needed.
Certain people (like ex soldiers and others) are able to carry guns in public, but in bars/clubs etc they have to hand them over to be put in the safe.

Originally Posted by Xaccers

So that doesn't happen in the other countries then? People are more open/concerned with their children understanding the dangers and uses of firearms? An interesting hypothesis

Been talking to my GF who's south african.
Down there to get a gun licence you need to go through the police for checks (any criminal record denies you the licence), have perfect eyesight, and most people get them for home defence, keeping their gun in a safe hoping it won't ever be needed.
Certain people (like ex soldiers and others) are able to carry guns in public, but in bars/clubs etc they have to hand them over to be put in the safe.

Interesting point.

My fiancee is also South African... (fancy a braai?)

We watched Bowling for columbine yesterday and we were amazed at the difference in gun crime deaths between the USA and Canada.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Tuftus

Interesting point.

My fiancee is also South African... (fancy a braai?)

Can we swap?
Heck how about you just take her and some koeksisters?

Originally Posted by Tuftus

We watched Bowling for columbine yesterday and we were amazed at the difference in gun crime deaths between the USA and Canada.

Yeah, the "southparkesq" scared white guys cartoon bit was probably quite accurate.
Wish it had been a decent program looking into why they boys did it though, rather than just trying to have a go at Wallmart and Lockheed

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Can we swap?
Heck how about you just take her and some koeksisters?

Hmm... koeksisters are better than biltong....

OK, deal!


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Originally Posted by Xaccers

Yeah, the "southparkesq" scared white guys cartoon bit was probably quite accurate.
Wish it had been a decent program looking into why they boys did it though, rather than just trying to have a go at Wallmart and Lockheed

I agree on that, it would have been good to get a better insight on WHY...

[orangebird]

And yet another horror story .... The worst since Columbine. Something needs to be done...

[Xaccers]

Anyone know how he got hold of the guns?
One is believed to be his grandfather's
Anyone know what the law is on storage of firearms in that state?