Attention-All NTL Staff. - Page 3

Escapee · 20-01-2005, 13:23

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Originally Posted by bigcat

NO jobs are safe in NTL at the moment

In the past year or so I've seen our Call Centre (the best performing in the country) and our FMR departments get canned (approx 150 jobs). Some staff managed to transfer to 2nd line, Surveillance or Retensions..but after Mondays bombshell we're not 100% sure these jobs are safe

We also learned on Monday that the Head Of FMS in Teesside Steve Brown had been put on 30 days notice

This guy has flogged his guts out over the past year turning Teesside into the streamlined, efficient unit that it is, and seamlessly migrating the entire countries 2nd Line & Surveillance functions over to Teesside. This is the way NTL thanks him for his hard work..

Good luck for the future Steve (and to all other staff that have/may lose their jobs)

I know many managers were on 30 days last month, some are used to it as it seems to happen at least once a year for them. I wonder how some of them stay positive and keep smiling.

I was told PeterM has been on 30 day notice quite a few times himself.

20-01-2005, 13:36

Some people struggle with the english language, let alone understanding the meaning of the message when its in text as opposed to a real conversation. As you so rightly point out, unions are worthless these days and have been for a long time. Why support a worthless cause with your own cash

BBKing · 20-01-2005, 13:44

Astounded to hear that about Steve, known the guy a while, definitely got the right ideas. Am making enquiries.

Womble · 20-01-2005, 13:56

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Originally Posted by gary_580

As you so rightly point out, unions are worthless these days and have been for a long time. Why support a worthless cause with your own cash

They are completely worthless, thats a tad harsh. As has been said they are only as strong as the members.

[Sarcasm] But hey, when they get me a 30% pay increase 70 days holiday etc dont moan when you don't get the same!! [/Sarcasm]

Chrysalis · 20-01-2005, 17:46

"Originally Posted by dezzo
I suppose we could all re-train as Gas engineers"

Glad you find the time to joke about such a bad subject, takes your mind of the <removed> company you work for?

Like I said before I am sorry for all those who lose thir job's because of this and I hope your skills are wanted elsewhere.

hairy_mick · 20-01-2005, 19:05

It does not matter how hard you work or how loyal you are you are just a number which can be easily disposed of.

Escapee · 20-01-2005, 19:21

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Originally Posted by hairy_mick

It does not matter how hard you work or how loyal you are you are just a number which can be easily disposed of.

That is so true, when the chips are down everyone will look after number one. The managers prime motive in the currect situation is to survive and look after himself.

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We also learned on Monday that the Head Of Operations in Teesside Steve Brown had been put on 30 days notice This guy has flogged his guts out over the past year

The same has happened in South Wales last month, I think the head of Operations (not a good guy in this case) and his sidekicks were in the same situation. Needless to say when his job was secure he secured the job of his sidekick the worst manager in the region. This is a guy who when a technician was given warnings about being lazy and disciplined by his manager. He is a guy who used to sit around the headend all day and all the other techs used to complain about him. After being given a good dressing down, for not doing his job he went off sick with stress, he returned and was shortly promoted to supervisor!

This guy has the cheek to call the techs lazy

They say poacher turned gamekeeper is the worst. The guy is hated by just about every tech there, I was told either a manager or senior tech went into see him on behalf of the techs. He said why dont they come in cos my door is always open. The guy said "Cos they think you are a ba****d" he apparently said "I'll show them what a ba****d is they can look out"

That just about sums up the quality needed to get on as a manager in ntl

**Mick** · 20-01-2005, 20:04

Please will members be aware that off-topic comments are subject to removal.

Womble · 20-01-2005, 20:07

From what I remember, this thread was supposed to encourage debate regarding the CWU?

Escapee · 20-01-2005, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Womble

From what I remember, this thread was supposed to encourage debate regarding the CWU?

I think the CWU is probably the best of the bunch for anyone in telecoms now. Some may say unions are a waste of money but there are some who have had grievences sorted out and as a result are financially much better off. I know that is the case with one ntl employee in South Wales, the few quid a month has been paid over many times for this person who was being treated very unfairly!

I think any union is a good insurance policy, but I must admit the worst ever pay rise I got was when a union negotiated it. What happens when a union does this, is everyone is treated fairly

the lazy useless ones got the same as the guys who were working their butts off

Swings and roundabouts I suppose.

poolking · 20-01-2005, 22:43

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Originally Posted by dezzo

I suppose we could all re-train as Gas engineers

Nice one, have a greenie.

Shaun · 20-01-2005, 23:01

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Sorry but in my opinion, Unions are have no power nowadays especially in a company like ntl.

I think you should ask my mum, she's the regional convener for Unison (NHS) and she has won no end of legal cases for employees. Without their union membership they'd be much, much worse off.

mogsyboy · 21-01-2005, 00:30

I've been in the CWU for 35 years and they have represented me very well. Industrial injuries, driving accidents, and representation at work are just some of the benefits I have had from the union. However it is still down to people's own choice if they join or not.

injuneer · 21-01-2005, 10:55

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Originally Posted by alex250

Whats the monthly cost of the union if you don't mind me asking

It's ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£4.99 a month by DD. Well worth having in the present climate! You are just a number to Ntl. (or a bean). Of course if the CWU ever do get recognised the subscription will go up slightly.

Derek · 21-01-2005, 17:04

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Glad you find the time to joke about such a bad subject, takes your mind of the <removed> company you work for?

Seeing I'm going to be made redundant in 2 weeks time then yes it does take my mind off the company I work for.