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Old 30-09-2004, 22:42   #31
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Old 01-10-2004, 08:33   #32
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Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection

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Fine until your internet banking applications won't run on it (and the palava of transferring security certificates).
Eh? I have successfully accessed both my online banking sites with three different browsers on my Mac at home (IE, Safari and now Firefox). Only Safari has ever been an issue - it went through a phase of not recognising the certifying authority on one of the sites. But that was a finite problem, months ago, and nothing to do with me switching browser (and it didn't stop me accessing my account, either). I think it's fair to say that using different browsers for online banking isn't a problem.

And I've never had to transfer a security certificate - what's that all about?
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Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection

Banking sites work fine for me too (except I keep on forgetting my passwords and the account gets disabled ). I have a problem with an internal site I use at work, but that's cause the muppet that coded it didn't think about testing it with other browsers than IE
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Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection

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Eh? I have successfully accessed both my online banking sites with three different browsers on my Mac at home (IE, Safari and now Firefox). Only Safari has ever been an issue - it went through a phase of not recognising the certifying authority on one of the sites. But that was a finite problem, months ago, and nothing to do with me switching browser (and it didn't stop me accessing my account, either). I think it's fair to say that using different browsers for online banking isn't a problem.

And I've never had to transfer a security certificate - what's that all about?
I know M&T bank in the US does not support Safari, and looking at this http://www.ukbusiness.hsbc.com/publi...nk_reqts.jhtml HSBC does not in the UK (for Business at least). Don't ask, upgraded Motherinlaws mac to X.3 and iLife04, told her she was best to use Safari on this new platform and get called 3 days later as she cannot do any banking anymore. Yes bad programming by the bank, but how do you forsee these things. They make it work for 95% of people (which is pleasing almost all the people all of the time).

HSBC business banking requires a digital cert on the PC you log on from (most personal banking doesn't), so its a bit of red herring to post it here and way off topic anyway.

http://www.ukbusiness.hsbc.com/hsbc/...a-digital-cert

Their credit card virtual terminal (an on line swipe machine) also requires one.

Not sure about their personal banking, but the demo is windoze only
http://www.ukpersonal.hsbc.co.uk/hsb...m-requirements
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I know M&T bank in the US does not support Safari, and looking at this http://www.ukbusiness.hsbc.com/publi...nk_reqts.jhtml HSBC does not in the UK (for Business at least). Don't ask, upgraded Motherinlaws mac to X.3 and iLife04, told her she was best to use Safari on this new platform and get called 3 days later as she cannot do any banking anymore. Yes bad programming by the bank, but how do you forsee these things. They make it work for 95% of people (which is pleasing almost all the people all of the time).

HSBC business banking requires a digital cert on the PC you log on from (most personal banking doesn't), so its a bit of red herring to post it here and way off topic anyway.

http://www.ukbusiness.hsbc.com/hsbc/...a-digital-cert

Their credit card virtual terminal (an on line swipe machine) also requires one.

Not sure about their personal banking, but the demo is windoze only
http://www.ukpersonal.hsbc.co.uk/hsb...m-requirements
HSBC Personal banking doesn't.
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Re: Now porn can give you a nasty infection

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Banking sites work fine for me too (except I keep on forgetting my passwords and the account gets disabled ). I have a problem with an internal site I use at work, but that's cause the muppet that coded it didn't think about testing it with other browsers than IE
A common issue in the poorly-funded world of the corporate intranet, I'm afraid. We took a conscious decision to code for IE only on ours, as there wasn't developer time enough to test for other browsers (and we have a single corporate software standard in any case). As a believer in web standards, it was hard for me to stomach, but sadly I'm an IT user, not a developer, so there was little I could do to influence that side of the development of it.
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A common issue in the poorly-funded world of the corporate intranet, I'm afraid. We took a conscious decision to code for IE only on ours, as there wasn't developer time enough to test for other browsers (and we have a single corporate software standard in any case). As a believer in web standards, it was hard for me to stomach, but sadly I'm an IT user, not a developer, so there was little I could do to influence that side of the development of it.
Talking of developers here is a utility that purports to make testing sites with different browsers easier.......scroll down and look at the 'View in' section
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When developing websites (something I seem to be doing too much of lately!) checking the layout and visual appeal of the site in multiple browsers is a necessary evil. Copying the URL in the IE, firing off a Mozilla or FireFox session and then pasting in the URL is an annoyance when done occasionally. When its done a number of times in quick succession it can become a major pain.

To get around this when using one of the Mozilla based browsers a plugin, IEView, was written to make IE invocations faster and simpler. Unfortunately for me my current work place (at July 2004 anyway) is an IE only shop so the developers and designers are missing the two-click invocation of other browsers. Until now.

Below are four sets of links, each one adds functionality to IE that permits right- click invocation of a different browser. The versions tested while building were: Avant 9.02, FireFox .9, Mozilla 1.6b and Opera 7.51.

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Only for the XP 02 and 03 versions. I have Office Pro 00 on my desktop and don't feel the need to pay the upgrade costs just yet.
Not sure about older patches, but the WordPerfect converter patch has an Office2000 fullfile version - bottom of attached link -

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

(Search MS Download for KB873380 if link doesn't work)

Of course there's no O2K patch for the JPEG problem.

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