MCSE 2000 Certification? - Page 3

nighthawk · 26-05-2004, 14:43

It is a lot of work... but should be worth it in the end. teh first part of my course material should be in a the start of next week. i will let you know how scary it is when it arrives

Caspar · 26-05-2004, 15:03

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Originally Posted by imback

So it's worth doing? Would I be taking on too much?

Which course you do and how much load you take on really depends on a few different factors/ motivations to do it.... things include increase skills, financial rewards, new job, peer respect, personal ambition, etc...

If you're not sure you want to commit yourself to a full MCSE or MCSA, for example, then just register on one of the modules. On competion of that you will become a MCP, which means a Microsoft Certified Professional...even that looks good!

..taking on too much is such an ambigious question since everyone is different with different time contraints and motivations..you'll only know once you've started! ...but doing something small first may give you an insight in the long run

Caspar · 26-05-2004, 15:06

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Originally Posted by nighthawk

It is a lot of work... but should be worth it in the end. teh first part of my course material should be in a the start of next week. i will let you know how scary it is when it arrives

My MCSE 2003 is completly online, through a learning management system...tho they are sending post materials, but I think those are add-ons.

My access details, I'm told, should be emailed to me within a few days

imback · 26-05-2004, 17:36

Thanks for the advice guys, I'm not going to lie my motives are purely money driven, and maybe so I can get myself a career instead of a job.

Basically I'm looking for something that means I can get a job and not start at the bottom, and some kind of grounding in the field that means I can work up employment ladder easier.

Nighthawk I will be very insterested to hear what you think of the material once you have viewed it.

imback · 22-06-2004, 00:04

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Originally Posted by nighthawk

It is a lot of work... but should be worth it in the end. teh first part of my course material should be in a the start of next week. i will let you know how scary it is when it arrives

How you going with it mate?

I got my first lot about 10 days ago, about half way through the A+ book now. Hope it's going well

Xaccers · 22-06-2004, 03:07

Psssst don't forget there's plenty of briandumps available for the MCSEs *nudge nudge wink wink*

imback · 22-06-2004, 18:20

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

Psssst don't forget there's plenty of briandumps available for the MCSEs *nudge nudge wink wink*

I have no idea what that means.

Tricky · 22-06-2004, 21:19

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Originally Posted by imback

I have no idea what that means.

Just in case you really don't know what it means ???

It's a dump of the questions that someone has had during an exam (very dodgy if you get caught as they'll take your certification away!) and they post them on a website along with the answer...

When I did my NT 3.1 (yes 3.1) I did the exams with a colleague and we staggered them so that we could aid each other with the questions (and answers!) did 3.5/4.0 and 2000 the real way though (experience not books!)

Xaccers · 22-06-2004, 21:36

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Originally Posted by Tricky

Just in case you really don't know what it means ???

It's a dump of the questions that someone has had during an exam (very dodgy if you get caught as they'll take your certification away!) and they post them on a website along with the answer...

When I did my NT 3.1 (yes 3.1) I did the exams with a colleague and we staggered them so that we could aid each other with the questions (and answers!) did 3.5/4.0 and 2000 the real way though (experience not books!)

You won't get into trouble for using them, but you would get your cetification removed if you were to create your own for other people after sitting the exam.
Very handy as study guides too.
Of course as Tricky rightly says, when it comes to actually doing the job, nothing beats experience.
Taking myself for example, I'm only qualified as a MCP (although I'm working on getting my 2003 MCSE) and got where I am by experience and ability.
It's like these graduates with computer degrees but no experience, sure on paper it looks impressive to pointy haired bosses, but when it comes down to doing the job, a bit of paper saying "degree" or "mcse" won't help you when the brown stuff hits the rotary cooling device.

22-06-2004, 22:10

The CCNA certification course is not the easiest I've ever sat down to. I was puttin in 5 or 6 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week. This enabled me to cover 2 and sometimes 3 modules a week, and sit the end of module assessments (averaging 81.7% per module). If I had been working I dont think I would have been able to keep up the pase set by the tutor. Last time I was at my class, the tutor was talking about next year having classes during the summer as a means to take the pressure off. There a almost 4,500 pages of book learning, in 2 massive text-books, plus 2 Lab books, plus the online course content.

Personally I had to give the course up, not because I wasnt up for it. But because of my personal circumstances since the rta in Feb. But one day I'll go back and re-do it.

So good-luck with the studies, and I look forward to see how thing go for you's.

imback · 22-06-2004, 22:57

[QUOTE=Xaccers]
Of course as Tricky rightly says, when it comes to actually doing the job, nothing beats experience.
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I agree but how many employers would give you a shot without a bit of paper? Especially these days.

Xaccers · 22-06-2004, 23:14

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Originally Posted by imback

I agree but how many employers would give you a shot without a bit of paper? Especially these days.

Yup, too many PHBs in the mix

One way is to get a first line job in a support centre, they normally don't ask for certifications.
Do that for a bit, then blag your way into a second line job at another company.

Gareth · 23-06-2004, 12:12

Braindumps are one of the main reasons that MCSE and other certifications are becoming less and less valued in industry.

Braindumps can allow people who would otherwise fail a certification to effectively pass the exam. The inexperience and lack of knowledge that these certified professionals truly possess becomes apparent once they are employed in industry, which causes the Pointy Haired Bosses to frown upon those who do posess certification, including those who can back-up their pieces-of-paper with the relevant skills and experience.

Braindumps sux0r!