08-04-2004, 01:50
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Right, going back to Plan A re XP64, the trial version can't even open zips so I'm gonna head back to XP Pro and wait til XP64 is finished.
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Confused ... I didn't think you had the 64 bit chip yet? Which begs the question, why use Windows XP 64 bit?
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08-04-2004, 02:34
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Re: Amd 64
The question isn't really 64/32, it's 'what's the best CPU price/performance ratio I can get' and since the A64 architecture kicks sand in the P4's face (the memory system more than the CPU design) and the prices are more than reasonable, A64 is where it's at. FX chips are way off the scale considering the limited life of Socket 940.
If you're looking for a 64bit OS, may I suggest dual-booting Linux on it? Plenty of full 64bit ports out there now.
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08-04-2004, 13:51
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by Bifta
Confused ... I didn't think you had the 64 bit chip yet? Which begs the question, why use Windows XP 64 bit?
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Went out yesterday and bought an AMD 64, hence downloading the trial version of XP64 which loads mega fast, but isn't finished enough for me to want to stick with it.
So now I've installed XP Pro (32bit) and things are running luverly although I have to go and get me a new 120mm case fan as mine had died (which would explain the slight increase in temp of my old CPU)
As for linux, if it did everything I wanted I'd use it, it doesn't, so I don't use it
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08-04-2004, 14:09
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Re: Amd 64
I'm tempted to build a shuttle and get hold of another A64 and stick Linux on it .. just for the craic 
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08-04-2004, 23:58
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Re: Amd 64
mmm AMD64, me has been thinking once the rent is paid, I will be going the route of AMD64, anyone no the lead time on ms finally rolling out a fulll version for the AMD Processor?
Thinking of going for a bundle deal from novatech, anyone got any good reasons not to?
It seems a few pence cheaper...
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09-04-2004, 00:00
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Re: Amd 64
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Right, got me a copy of XP64 and currently installing it (why does formatting 156GB still take so long? ) |
Windows Server 2003, omes with the option to do a quick format, which is nice and speedy and pretty good for everyday use, wonder when it will be available in all there OS's
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09-04-2004, 00:39
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by Millay
mmm AMD64, me has been thinking once the rent is paid, I will be going the route of AMD64, anyone no the lead time on ms finally rolling out a fulll version for the AMD Processor?
Thinking of going for a bundle deal from novatech, anyone got any good reasons not to?
It seems a few pence cheaper...
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I can't think of any reasons not to, also, there's only a minute difference in the benchmarks between the Nforce 3 and Via boards so it doesn't really matter which one of them you go for, though personally, I'd pick the Nforce as ever since the KT266 I've personally had nothing but trouble with 'em.
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09-04-2004, 06:43
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by Millay
Windows Server 2003, omes with the option to do a quick format, which is nice and speedy and pretty good for everyday use, wonder when it will be available in all there OS's
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It is in XP Pro
I got me the Asus KV8 SE delux
I'm impressed with the little things you get with it, like a MB layout sticker to go on the inside of your case so you don't have to dig out the manual.
Also get Asus PC Probe so I can check my fanspeeds and CPU/Case temp and disk and Physical memory usage all with one click.
Been running my TV card all night and the CPU is up to 44C, case is 33C, which is a heck of a lot cooler than my Athlon 1800+ with a zalman flower!
This is using the AMD H/S/F that came with the CPU
Re the bundles, they appear to be using ECS MB's which I've not had trouble with in the past (but then I never had trouble with my KT266-E)
Don't know if they're using OEM CPU's, so you might not be getting the AMD H/S/F but a cheap and cheerful one.
Other than that I can't think of any reason not to go for a bundle unless you want a different mother board.
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09-04-2004, 11:53
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Re: Amd 64
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It is in XP Pro
I got me the Asus KV8 SE delux
I'm impressed with the little things you get with it, like a MB layout sticker to go on the inside of your case so you don't have to dig out the manual.
Also get Asus PC Probe so I can check my fanspeeds and CPU/Case temp and disk and Physical memory usage all with one click.
Been running my TV card all night and the CPU is up to 44C, case is 33C, which is a heck of a lot cooler than my Athlon 1800+ with a zalman flower!
This is using the AMD H/S/F that came with the CPU
Re the bundles, they appear to be using ECS MB's which I've not had trouble with in the past (but then I never had trouble with my KT266-E)
Don't know if they're using OEM CPU's, so you might not be getting the AMD H/S/F but a cheap and cheerful one.
Other than that I can't think of any reason not to go for a bundle unless you want a different mother board.
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ECS? Used to be cheap and nasty, I owned a K7S5A for about 3 days before ditching it and buying a Gigabyte 7VAXP
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09-04-2004, 12:05
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Re: Amd 64
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ECS? Used to be cheap and nasty, I owned a K7S5A for about 3 days before ditching it and buying a Gigabyte 7VAXP
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You really havent' had much luck with motherboards have you?
My K7S5A was fine.
Might be having problems with my new one, either that or it's the RAM so back to novatech they shall go after the weekend (so lucky living practically next door to them).
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09-04-2004, 12:25
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Re: Amd 64
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You really havent' had much luck with motherboards have you?
My K7S5A was fine.
Might be having problems with my new one, either that or it's the RAM so back to novatech they shall go after the weekend (so lucky living practically next door to them).
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Same here My K7S5A is fine. I even put a hacked bios on it so now I can overclock the CPU (runs just fine after)
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09-04-2004, 12:31
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Re: Amd 64
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Good luck. I may get one of those myself when they start making software to support it  |
Try Linux! They are already numerous Athlon 64 distros!
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09-04-2004, 12:47
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by cjmillsnun
Try Linux! They are already numerous Athlon 64 distros!
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Er no thanks. Check here,
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=10822
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09-04-2004, 12:59
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
You really havent' had much luck with motherboards have you?
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Well, in all fairness, it wasn't just me, friend of mine had one in one of his first PC's, he dumped it for an original Nforce board after a week or two. But yes, you're right, I am pretty unlucky with hardware, particularly motherboards, the fan died on my Gigabyte, the first asus I got from Ebuyer was DOA, the ECS kept crashing, the MSI board I had was RMA'd, the only 2 decent boards I've ever had was the A7N8X Deluxe I'm using at the moment and an Abit IC7-G (which I sold to get the MSI Athlon 64 board and processor, which I then sold about 3 weeks later and bought new bits with).
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09-04-2004, 23:03
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Re: Amd 64
Isn't there a Windows XP 64bit Edition out for this processor?
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