19-04-2023, 11:48
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Re: TV360
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Could you expand looks as if you can pick out a show and stream it. Like others that would be the killer for me.
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My viewing is almost 100% recorded documentaries.
I understand that TV360 records 6 programs at the same time. TiVo did 3 at the same time.
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19-04-2023, 12:34
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Re: TV360
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Could you expand looks as if you can pick out a show and stream it. Like others that would be the killer for me.
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Yes, you can. My 360 gives me an option to pick a show from the EPG and then either record or add to the streaming watchlist. Alternatively, you can use the search facility and do the same.
IIRC, the TiVo and V6 enable you to create a bookmark from a search, which is the same thing.
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19-04-2023, 17:40
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Re: TV360
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Yes, you can. My 360 gives me an option to pick a show from the EPG and then either record or add to the streaming watchlist. Alternatively, you can use the search facility and do the same.
IIRC, the TiVo and V6 enable you to create a bookmark from a search, which is the same thing.
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Ok seems the same way record and watch later. So what does benmc mean I 🤔
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19-04-2023, 20:23
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Re: TV360
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Ok seems the same way record and watch later. So what does benmc mean I ��
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This Liberty Global provider in Switzerland uses the version of the Horizon/360 hardware without the hard drive due to different content rights there. Recordings are stored in the cloud.
https://www.sunrise.ch/en/internet-tv/tv-subscription
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Up to 2,000 hours of recordings
Record up to 2,000 hours of your favorite shows – simultaneously, as a series recording and up to seven days after they aired. All recordings are stored for one year.
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So if / when the UK moves to cloud recordings it doesn't mean you don't still have the option to do so, but it won't be done in the same way as now.
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19-04-2023, 20:36
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Re: TV360
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
This Liberty Global provider in Switzerland uses the version of the Horizon/360 hardware without the hard drive due to different content rights there. Recordings are stored in the cloud.
https://www.sunrise.ch/en/internet-tv/tv-subscription
So if / when the UK moves to cloud recordings it doesn't mean you don't still have the option to do so, but it won't be done in the same way as now.
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When is the target year for this change ?
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19-04-2023, 23:09
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Re: TV360
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When is the target year for this change ?
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There isn't one, I'm just pointing out that 'recordings' can still exist as the technology changes.
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20-04-2023, 08:28
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Re: TV360
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There isn't one, I'm just pointing out that 'recordings' can still exist as the technology changes.
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Thank you -
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20-04-2023, 17:07
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Re: TV360
Cloud recordings and VOD catch up are the same thing with all the earlier outlined disadvantages that this entails.
The only people who can still record on a 360 are those that converted their old V6 boxes with a software download.
New customers can only have a 360 box that does not have a recording facility, so it's inevitable that, as these boxes fail due to age, they will be replaced with a box that cannot record.
Just because a switchover date hasn't been announced doesn't mean that it won't be happening in due course.
It's obvious that a switchover is starting to be phased in, in exactly the same way as was done for SD boxes, TiVo boxes, V boxes and the V+ ie not giving new customers the option but to have anything else but the 360.
Going by previous changeover programmes, the next stage will probably be to stop replacing legacy boxes with like for like replacements, but with a non recordable 360.
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20-04-2023, 17:10
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Re: TV360
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
The only people who can still record on a 360 are those that converted their old V6 boxes with a software download.
New customers can only have a 360 box that does not have a recording facility, so it's inevitable that, as these boxes fail due to age, they will be replaced with a box that cannot record.
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All new customers receive a main 360 box which has the hard drive. Any additional 360's are mini boxes.
Anybody regrading from either a Tivo or V6 box will also receive a main 360 box.
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20-04-2023, 17:42
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Re: TV360
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Originally Posted by newapollo
All new customers receive a main 360 box which has the hard drive. Any additional 360's are mini boxes.
Anybody regrading from either a Tivo or V6 box will also receive a main 360 box.
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What does ' regrading' mean ? Is it VM admitting it's not an 'upgrade' anymore? Tbh if they gave me one of these it would be bye bye.
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20-04-2023, 18:12
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Re: TV360
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Originally Posted by newapollo
All new customers receive a main 360 box which has the hard drive. Any additional 360's are mini boxes.
Anybody regrading from either a Tivo or V6 box will also receive a main 360 box.
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Sorry, yes, I was getting confused with the streaming box. It's those with more than one box who can no longer increase their recording capacity. When those with 2+ recording boxes experiencea box failure, I think that they will receive non recording 360 boxes as replacement(s) until they are down to only one box with the ability to record.
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What does ' regrading' mean ? Is it VM admitting it's not an 'upgrade' anymore? Tbh if they gave me one of these it would be bye bye.
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Let's hope that any attempt to force people onto them doesn't happen for a few more years
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20-04-2023, 20:09
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Re: TV360
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What does ' regrading' mean ? Is it VM admitting it's not an 'upgrade' anymore? Tbh if they gave me one of these it would be bye bye.
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Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it, Mr K!
The 360 was definitely a good move in my house. Sorry, though, it doesn’t have a Scart socket! 🤭
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20-04-2023, 20:15
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Re: TV360
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Cloud recordings and VOD catch up are the same thing with all the earlier outlined disadvantages that this entails.
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Where are you getting that from? BenMcr has already given us a link to another LG cable service with cloud recording which is different from VOD.
Another error in your post.
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20-04-2023, 20:31
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Re: TV360
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it, Mr K!
The 360 was definitely a good move in my house. Sorry, though, it doesn’t have a Scart socket! 🤭
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You've always been jealous of my scart OB
Once they've sucked you into 360 there's no going back, which is strange given its name ....
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Where are you getting that from? BenMcr has already given us a link to another LG cable service with cloud recording which is different from VOD.
Another error in your post.
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Problem with clouds/streaming is that they cease to exist if your interweb fails, which VMs has been doing a bit lately.
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20-04-2023, 22:21
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Re: TV360
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Originally Posted by 1701-e
Where are you getting that from? BenMcr has already given us a link to another LG cable service with cloud recording which is different from VOD.
Another error in your post.
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What error beyond what's already been corrected?
Tell me the difference between them then? Last time me and Spiderplant discussed this, we couldn't see any difference between bookmarking a VOD programme and selecting a 'cloud recording' of a programme.
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