UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

[Julian]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm sure that as an advocate of democracy, you welcome this being tested oin the courts.

I'm sure that as an advocate of not being able to accept the referendum result, you welcome this being tested in the courts.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Julian

I'm sure that as an advocate of not being able to accept the referendum result, you welcome this being tested in the courts.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Julian

I'm sure that as an advocate of not being able to accept the referendum result, you welcome this being tested in the courts.

Lol, good try!

[RichardCoulter]

If we leave with no deal, this poll says that the public will blame Johnson:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...bep_csid=23472

<checks news for the last seven months>

Nope, can not see any reason why car sales would be dropping. Nothing at all.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

<checks news for the last seven months>

Nope, can not see any reason why car sales would be dropping. Nothing at all.

Redwood by name, dead wood by nature. Hopefully he'll do the decent thing and retire.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

If we leave with no deal, this poll says that the public will blame Johnson:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...bep_csid=23472

Naw, can't be right, it's the fault of the pesky EU who want to punish us and all those who voted Remain.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

<checks news for the last seven months>

Nope, can not see any reason why car sales would be dropping. Nothing at all.

Had you checked 3 posts further down, you'd have come across this posted yesterday:

Further disastrous slump in U.K. car output whilst still in the EU single market. The threat to U.K. car manufacture was always the policy of stopping diesel and petrol Vehicles, and now anti virus policies, not Brexit.

Any reason why you chose to mock John Redwood?



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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Redwood by name, dead wood by nature. Hopefully he'll do the decent thing and retire.

<SNIP>

Andrew, you're being a silly billy. That's a gratuitous piece of venom.

JR is a first class local MP who seems to have fallen foul of your opinion by dint of being an ardent leaver.

I remember getting into an audience debate with him (1995, hosted by Paxman) as to the value of the then EEC. He wanted it to remain a trading bloc but otherwise was advocating our withdrawal. I argued against that then, since which he has been proved 100% in his assessment of the EU.

Just because you don't share his views does not put you in the right with your characterization of him.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm sure that as an advocate of democracy, you welcome this being tested oin the courts.

This is a non sequitur.

Our democratic processes are not subject to routine court supervision. Any attempt to bring judicial oversight to bear on our democratic processes should be politically neutral and there should be a prima facie case to answer. Given the circumstances of this court challenge I doubt either is the case here.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

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Any reason why you chose to mock John Redwood?

He's talking a load of nonsense as many motor dealerships are closed down due to Coronavirus levels and consumer confidence is low hence people are deferring buying new cars. It's outside their control.

He appears to be deaf in the face of an important industry.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

He's talking a load of nonsense as many motor dealerships are closed down due to Coronavirus levels and consumer confidence is low hence people are deferring buying new cars. It's outside their control.

He appears to be deaf in the face of an important industry.

Consumer confidence and a lot of cars not doing much mileage with the rise in WFH.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

He's talking a load of nonsense as many motor dealerships are closed down due to Coronavirus levels and consumer confidence is low hence people are deferring buying new cars. It's outside their control.

He appears to be deaf in the face of an important industry.

JR says as much in the second of his posts that I quoted.

Your venom would be better deployed against Corbyn, imo.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

JR says as much in the second of his posts that I quoted.

Your venom would be better deployed against Corbyn, imo.

I've never failed to condemn Corbyn and I hope he does the decent thing and steps down as an MP. But that's a different topic.
Not sure how car manufacturers can complain to the Coronavirus for the damage it's done to their livelihoods. But they can try and educate the government about the need to avoid no-deal.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I've never failed to condemn Corbyn and I hope he does the decent thing and steps down as an MP. But that's a different topic.
Not sure how car manufacturers can complain to the Coronavirus for the damage it's done to their livelihoods. But they can try and educate the government about the need to avoid no-deal.

Er, try people not buying cars because they're locked down, not receiving full pay, etc.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Er, try people not buying cars because they're locked down, not receiving full pay, etc.

What's your point? Are you expecting car manufacturers to openly lobby against lockdown and locked-down staff not being funded 100% of their salaries? Ain't gonna happen.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

What's your point? Are you expecting car manufacturers to openly lobby against lockdown and locked-down staff not being funded 100% of their salaries? Ain't gonna happen.

Yeah - I've forgotten!