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**Damien** · 05-01-2014, 20:28

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Originally Posted by denphone

The problem is at big clubs now is generally you don't get time and Wenger is a one off in terms of managers still managing now who have been there for a long time.

The bottom line for owners now is qualify for the Champions League and if they don't then the managers will generally get the sack at the end of the season.

Liverpool didn't fire David Brent when he wasn't doing well last year either.

TheDaddy · 05-01-2014, 20:36

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Originally Posted by thenry

I found a pic of Russ heading home from OT

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No need to sneak out he supported utd today as they were at home, must be like having two wives...

Russ · 05-01-2014, 20:37

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Originally Posted by Damien

Yes but he isn't. He is managing a team that has more money, is higher in the league, and for whom he has just signed. Mourinho is not taking over United. I would like us to sign Ronaldo this window but it's not going to happen. Who do you think could take over from Moyes who is a feasible candidate?

Depends on who would consider it. Pep Guardiola would be the name I'd offer you if I'm being pressed. A good relationship with SAF and experience with big clubs.

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Originally Posted by Damien

All big club managers had to start somewhere. Ferguson didn't have it when he took over United. Wenger didn't have it when he took over Arsenal. There is no one who can step into that job without a problem given the problems the squad has and the sheer success his predecessor had. You need to give him time to adapt to the job and build a new squad. Arsenal were poor at times last year and so were Liverpool and this year they're flying, it's the consequence of stability. You would have been amongst the fans that wanted Ferguson out when he also had a bad start.

No not quite. Bad analogy because United today are a world apart from the club they were in SAF's first few years. They were more of a 'cup team' back then. The whole brand and business model was different, the attacking style of football was almost non existent. The step-up from Aberdeen to United (of 1986) was not as big as Everton to United of today.

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Originally Posted by Damien

When people said Moyes needed time this is what they meant. They didn't mean you get to win everything and take credit for giving the guy time, they meant you might have to cope with a rough patch or season as the new guy takes over.

But the 'new guy' has to show something, anything to indicate he's capable of the job! Which is what Moyes has easily failed to do.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

No need to sneak out he supported utd today as they were at home, must be like having two wives...

OK, we get it - you don't understand. Now please, move on with your life.

denphone · 05-01-2014, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Damien

Liverpool didn't fire David Brent when he wasn't doing well last year either.

David Brent?.

adzii_nufc · 05-01-2014, 21:04

United had their chance at Mourinho and it seems like they snubbed him. Why would he bother now? AVB is free I've heard.

Mr Pharmacist · 05-01-2014, 21:11

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

United had their chance at Mourinho and it seems like they snubbed him. Why would he bother now? AVB is free I've heard.

AVB

AVB The Trilogy or Reloaded

thenry · 05-01-2014, 21:17

TheDaddy · 05-01-2014, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Russ

Depends on who would consider it. Pep Guardiola would be the name I'd offer you if I'm being pressed. A good relationship with SAF and experience with big clubs.

No not quite. Bad analogy because United today are a world apart from the club they were in SAF's first few years. They were more of a 'cup team' back then. The whole brand and business model was different, the attacking style of football was almost non existent. The step-up from Aberdeen to United (of 1986) was not as big as Everton to United of today.

But the 'new guy' has to show something, anything to indicate he's capable of the job! Which is what Moyes has easily failed to do.

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OK, we get it - you don't understand. Now please, move on with your life.

Don't want to understand it Russ and I'd like to move on but it's tricky with the constant updates of your multi club existence.

**Damien** · 05-01-2014, 22:33

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Originally Posted by Russ

Depends on who would consider it. Pep Guardiola would be the name I'd offer you if I'm being pressed. A good relationship with SAF and experience with big clubs.

Again though he has just signed for Munich. I think United isn't an attractive job right now, the squad needs a lot of work, there isn't as much money as City or Chelsea, and they'll be following someone who set a standard they're extremely unlikely to meet. Moyes may not be perfect but he has been given a impossible task and I think he is the man you need to back to get it done. Someone has to do it.

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No not quite. Bad analogy because United today are a world apart from the club they were in SAF's first few years. They were more of a 'cup team' back then. The whole brand and business model was different, the attacking style of football was almost non existent. The step-up from Aberdeen to United (of 1986) was not as big as Everton to United of today.

No but then there is no template for taking over United. A club where the manager was as successful, a club which was built around that one man, and a club where the manager was there for so long. Arsenal will be keeping a close eye on how United do this though.

thenry · 06-01-2014, 15:19

So Wengers lying getting out of signing a player.

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Atletico Madrid sporting director Jose Luis Perez Caminero confirms Diego Costa has a £31million release clause

http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...ke-will-remain

That says it all doesnt it. Unless ofcourse he got the information from Luiz Suarez agent

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Erik Lamela’s agent is believed to be in Rome today, with Inter and Lazio reported as in contention for a loan deal.

http://www.football-italia.net/43457...99s-agent-rome

Arthurgray50@blu · 06-01-2014, 15:34

If Arsenal even think about signing Berbatov, they must be stupid. Spurs got rid of him as he was useless and is a player that is not loyal.

As for Walcott, they FA will not be charging him with any offence. If that was Joe Bloggs in the street, we would have been taken from the crowd and charged with an offence, and likely to land up in court.

His gesture was like a incitement to riot, it was a stupid thing to do as especially in front of the Spurs fans - Ok the fans should not have thrown coins, but Walcott should not have made the gesture in the first place.

One rule for one and not the other. IF, Walcott had played for a lower league club, the FA would xcruicify them.

thenry · 06-01-2014, 15:36

Coins were thrown while Theo was on the ground injured BEFORE he told the Tottenham mob the scoreline!

thenry · 06-01-2014, 18:24

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Theo Walcott ruled out for six months

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...for-six-months

nooooooooooooooo!

Dave42 · 06-01-2014, 18:26

Arsenal FC ‏@Arsenal 8m
The Club regrettably announces Theo Walcott has been ruled out for at least six months with a knee injury. Story: http://po.st/WBIvBd

very big blow that thenry mate

denphone · 06-01-2014, 18:29

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Originally Posted by thenry

nooooooooooooooo!

He is a very talented player but is too injury prone for my liking.