President Trump 2.0

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Yes his comment was in retaliation for the 'joke' calling Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. Hardly a big deal really.

Told by a “comedian” (I’ve put it in brackets as I didn’t find it funny) but a comedian none the less.

Biden is the sitting president of the country, and he just called half of his country’s citizens….”garbage”. There is no comparison and for you to try and make one is imbecilic.

As for rest of what you said

Is bang on, thanks for asking.

I’ve said it before … for someone who has professed not to be that bovvered, you seem to have drunk an awful lot of the Donald’s kool-aid.

Every senior Republican who decides to publicly endorse a candidate from the other party is saying something everyone else should care about. I can’t imagine why you’d even try to suggest otherwise. How about Andy Burnham getting up at the next election and telling everyone to vote Tory? Would that be a ‘who cares’ moment?

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Told by a “comedian” (I’ve put it in brackets as I didn’t find it funny) but a comedian none the less.

Biden is the sitting president of the country, and he just called half of his country’s citizens….”garbage”. There is no comparison and for you to try and make one is imbecilic.



Is bang on, thanks for asking.

It was imbecilic for you to suggest i was making a comparison. When I clearly stated it was a retort to what was said at Trump's rally. Those Puerto Ricans are US citizens, so to even try to make such a hideous joke about them being garbage is ultimately racist and bang out of order. From the other things said at that rally I don't even think the guy was joking.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Chris

I’ve said it before … for someone who has professed not to be that bovvered, you seem to have drunk an awful lot of the Donald’s kool-aid.

Every senior Republican who decides to publicly endorse a candidate from the other party is saying something everyone else should care about. I can’t imagine why you’d even try to suggest otherwise. How about Andy Burnham getting up at the next election and telling everyone to vote Tory? Would that be a ‘who cares’ moment?

Arnie is a “senior republican” ? A decade and a half ago, maybe two…..not now. He’s nobody and his opinion carries about as much weight as an anorexic moth.


I propose RFK jr and Tulsi Gabbard for the counter argument.

The outcome doesn’t matter to me as I have no control over it. I’m on record that want I Trump to win …..just for the hell of it.

I will question hypocrisy, bullshit and rampant TDS.

What are your thoughts on the Biden….garbage…comment?

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Originally Posted by Stephen

It was imbecilic for you to suggest i was making a comparison. When I clearly stated it was a retort to what was said at Trump's rally. Those Puerto Ricans are US citizens, so to even try to make such a hideous joke about them being garbage is ultimately racist and bang out of order. From the other things said at that rally I don't even think the guy was joking.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

What are your thoughts on the Biden….garbage…comment?

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You’re an imbecile because you can’t differentiate between an unknown comedian and the president of the United States of America, and the weight of their words.

Pretty much the opposite of this, seeing as the unknown comedian was given a platform at Trump’s set-piece closing rally and it’s inconceivable that Team Trump didn’t know what he was going to say. His words are Trump-endorsed. And if not, Trump and his lieutenants could have distanced themselves from them afterwards (they didn’t). Instead, a lot of Puerto Ricans will be wondering whether it’s a good idea to vote GOP. A significant number of them live in knife-edge states like Pennsylvania.

Biden isn’t standing for election and will be out of office in 2 months. He is also clearly on a downward cognitive pathway. So, at this stage, who cares?

This is a fairly obvious contrast you ought to be able to differentiate.

Originally Posted by Pierre

I propose RFK jr and Tulsi Gabbard for the counter argument.

You already proposed RFK Jr when he endorsed Trump, despite him never having been elected to a Democratic office you said that was then a big deal:

Originally Posted by Pierre

RFK, a sane democrat, has suspended his own campaign and endorsed Trump.

RFK Jr suspends campaign to 'throw support' behind Trump https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy5ekxlwzgo

The guy is a dyed in the wool democrat.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Yeah, this is pretty much like Stephen Kinnock or Hilary Benn, joining the Tory’s .

But now it's Schwarzenegger who has been elected as a Republican Governor that isn't a big deal?

At least be consistent when shilling for Trump. No one here will make a difference to the election so there isn't a need to act as Trump's press officer or be hypocritical about it.

If RJK backing Trump is important then Schwarzenegger backing Harris is as well.

In reality, I don't think either makes much of a difference. The people receptive to their messages are already going to be voting for Trump or Harris respectfully.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

You already proposed RFK Jr when he endorsed Trump, despite him never having been elected to a Democratic office you said that was then a big deal:

OK…..just being consistent, can’t have a go at me for that?

But now it's Schwarzenegger who has been elected as a Republican Governor that isn't a big deal?

Schwarzenegger was Governor from 2003-2011, in political terms almost a lifetime ago. Considering California has been Dem ever since, and further considering that Arnie is no longer a superstar and only a DTV draw…..his opinion or endorsement means very little …….to nothing.

At least be consistent when shilling for Trump. No one here will make a difference to the election so there isn't a need to act as Trump's press officer or be hypocritical about it.

I’m not shilling, but I will call out bullshit where I see it

If RJK backing Trump is important then Schwarzenegger backing Harris is as well.

In reality, I don't think either makes much of a difference. The people receptive to their messages are already going to be voting for Trump or Harris respectfully.

No….. RFK…invites former Democrats to legitimately vote republic……………red wall anyone?

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Arnie is a “senior republican” ? A decade and a half ago, maybe two…..not now. He’s nobody and his opinion carries about as much weight as an anorexic moth.


I propose RFK jr and Tulsi Gabbard for the counter argument.

The outcome doesn’t matter to me as I have no control over it. I’m on record that want I Trump to win …..just for the hell of it.

I will question hypocrisy, bullshit and rampant TDS.

What are your thoughts on the Biden….garbage…comment?

A guy that had a slot on the same stage as Trump and was in front of millions of people, saying those things about fellow Americans is as low as it gets.

So it's not OK for Biden to say it but it's fine for the GOP? Trump spouts vile rhetoric and resorts to name calling every time he speaks. He is nasty and no wonder some republicans are saying they are voting Kamala, should show how off-putting Trump is.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Pierre

because you can’t differentiate between an unknown comedian and the president of the United States of America, and the weight of their words.

If only it was just the comedian, it was a string of guest speakers all trying do out do each other in the douche bag stakes and the crowd lapped it up, you can put comedian in italics as much as you want but he knew his audience and shady vance can say as much as he likes that he didn't hear the joke but the party can't say they didn't book him, vet and approve the material just like they can't for the rest of their guests

[Mr K]

The Don loves hate, division and mocking any minority. Just like that classy mime he made of a disabled person. It works for him.
I wish I could say he's alone but he represents a lot of that bigoted people. It's a very sick country, and it'll get worse if he gets power again.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I’m on record that want I Trump to win …..just for the hell of it.

That's just weird, like saying you want a nuclear war, for your personal entertainment.....

Originally Posted by Pierre

OK…..just being consistent, can’t have a go at me for that?

Schwarzenegger was Governor from 2003-2011, in political terms almost a lifetime ago. Considering California has been Dem ever since, and further considering that Arnie is no longer a superstar and only a DTV draw…..his opinion or endorsement means very little …….to nothing.

And RFK has never been elected to a Democratic office. Schwarzenegger might be long past his term in office but he at least was, at one point, a senior member of the Republican Party. If his time out of office renders his endorsement of little value then RFK having never been a senior member of the Democratic party means even less.

That's consistency.

Not contorting yourself into his position when RFK is a more significant figure in Democratic politics than Schwarzenegger is in Republican politics.

Originally Posted by Pierre

No….. RFK…invites former Democrats to legitimately vote republic……………red wall anyone?

Schwarzenegger invites former Republicans to legitimately vote for Democrats. Urban white men anyone?

Neither is going to matter much. The audience listening to them has already decided long ago.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Chris

Pretty much the opposite of this, seeing as the unknown comedian was given a platform at Trump’s set-piece closing rally and it’s inconceivable that Team Trump didn’t know what he was going to say. His words are Trump-endorsed. And if not, Trump and his lieutenants could have distanced themselves from them afterwards (they didn’t). Instead, a lot of Puerto Ricans will be wondering whether it’s a good idea to vote GOP. A significant number of them live in knife-edge states like Pennsylvania.

Biden isn’t standing for election and will be out of office in 2 months. He is also clearly on a downward cognitive pathway. So, at this stage, who cares?

This is a fairly obvious contrast you ought to be able to differentiate.

Trump platforming a racist comedian and not distancing himself from that comedian's views speaks to racism or if we're being generous, cognitive decline. Neither makes for a good President.

I know it’s Halloween, but I don’t think it’s very dignified for a Presidential Candidate to dress up as a pumpkin…



this is the original photo - it’s not been enhanced/filtered

[thenry]

And how is this relevant to the topic pube?

Originally Posted by thenry

And how is this relevant to the topic pube?

How is a picture of a Presidential Candidate undertaking a campaign event with enough bronzer on his face to match a hi-vis jacket relevant to the 2024 US Election?