TiVo Major TiVo Update - Page 29

Horizon · 23-08-2016, 14:18

....the ntl box could reorder the channels to where you wanted, but it wouldn't let you renumber them. I did ask for this option, but was told no.

The thing about "progress" is 20 years ago I could record whatever I wanted onto tapes or dvds before pvrs. I could carry the tapes anywhere I wanted and play them wherever there was a machine.

These days you are stuck with a cable pvr which you have no choice to decide what make and model you want. Once its filled up, mine was after about a month of use, there is no ability to archive the recordings onto computer hard disks or dvds.

Hence I am stuck with a box that I cannot use and if I could, its too slow and difficult finding channels, changing channels etc anyway.

But hey yes, all in the name of "progress"...

BenMcr · 23-08-2016, 14:40

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Originally Posted by Horizon

there is no ability to archive the recordings onto computer hard disks or dvds.

TiVo does have a SCART connection on the back, which means you can still archive recording from it.

hedgie · 23-08-2016, 15:15

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

TiVo does have a SCART connection on the back, which means you can still archive recording from it.

Agreed but the old box had an archive function so you could watch one channel and archive another IIRC.

Anyway wont be long before its all cloud storage anyway. With so much content on demand personal copies will be a thing of the past. As I look at my CD rack with Hundreds and hundred of CD;s, albums in storage and the odd cassette kicking around

Just need the digital rights issue sorted once and for all with a major update of the copyright and broadcast legislation to bring us neatly to the 21st century....

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Originally Posted by hedgie

Agreed but the old box had an archive function so you could watch one channel and archive another IIRC.

Anyway wont be long before its all cloud storage anyway. With so much content on demand personal copies will be a thing of the past. As I look at my CD rack with Hundreds and hundred of CD;s, albums in storage and the odd cassette kicking around

Must admit I don't miss the palaver of archiving to DVD, setting up titles and all that nonsense with different types of discs.

Just need the digital rights issue sorted once and for all with a major update of the copyright and broadcast legislation to bring us neatly to the 21st century....

BenMcr · 23-08-2016, 15:20

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Originally Posted by hedgie

Agreed but the old box had an archive function so you could watch one channel and archive another IIRC.

Depends which box. The SA V+ HD box has it across all output modes, but the Samsung V+ HD has it only if you are using HDMI. However there were other issues this causes, including the inability to see the menus from the VCR SCART on the SA V+ HD and causes it's own confusion.

TiVo outputs the same thing across both the HDMI and SCART outputs which is logical.

nicknewark · 23-08-2016, 15:58

A noticble slow down on my TIVO since the update, with lots of spinning circles, so glad i'm nearly at the end of contract, and can get rid of it.

Horizon · 23-08-2016, 16:49

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

TiVo does have a SCART connection on the back, which means you can still archive recording from it.

To be honest I wasn't aware of a scart, but you still cannot archive HD, or can you? My technical knowledge, as always, is minus 1000.

What is the point with a 1080p tv watching recordings in lower, composite quality?

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Originally Posted by hedgie

Agreed but the old box had an archive function so you could watch one channel and archive another IIRC.

Anyway wont be long before its all cloud storage anyway. With so much content on demand personal copies will be a thing of the past. As I look at my CD rack with Hundreds and hundred of CD;s, albums in storage and the odd cassette kicking around

Just need the digital rights issue sorted once and for all with a major update of the copyright and broadcast legislation to bring us neatly to the 21st century....

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I don't disagree with you about the cloud storage point except what if you can no longer afford a pay tv/pay music/pay film/broadband supplier in the future and you lose access to your cloud stuff?

My CDs are mine. My DVDs/BRs are mine. What's on my hard discs are mine. Cloud is great, up until the point you run out of dosh. My VHS are mine and I still have records too, both sizes! Mine, not anyone elses.

As you say, digital rights still has a lot of work to be done before everything can go cloud.

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Originally Posted by nicknewark

A noticble slow down on my TIVO since the update, with lots of spinning circles, so glad i'm nearly at the end of contract, and can get rid of it.

I'm getting circles as well. Hey, its a "upgrade", don't complain....

BenMcr · 23-08-2016, 16:51

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Originally Posted by Horizon

To be honest I wasn't aware of a scart, but you still cannot archive HD, or can you? My technical knowledge, as always, is minus 1000.

What is the point with a 1080p tv watching recordings in lower, composite quality?

No you can't but then neither did the V+ HD allow that and nor does Sky.

To archive in HD devices generally strip out the HDCP as you'd break the content protection path, so content providers that have agreements with Virgin Media and Sky wouldn't really like that!

Horizon · 23-08-2016, 16:55

...yep, I know that, thanks for reminding me. And thanks for bothering to keep replying to lots of queries here.

VM should pay you for doing this!

Taf · 23-08-2016, 17:04

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Originally Posted by nicknewark

A noticble slow down on my TIVO since the update, with lots of spinning circles

My circles don't even spin any more!

RichardCoulter · 23-08-2016, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Taf

My circles don't even spin any more!

Yep, these days you don't even get a spinning circle, you get a frozen circle or a blank screen, so now you don't even have the knowledge that it's actually doing something, albeit very slowly.

Sometimes it eventually works out, sometimes it causes the screen to reset, sometimes it freezes so you have to reboot it yourself to be able to move on and sometimes it'll reboot of it's own accord to mess up your recordings. It's all just pot luck with nobody knowing what's happening.

And they expect even more money for this rubbish in November- they can take a hike. After 16 years, enough is enough.

nicknewark · 23-08-2016, 21:04

I think Im Going to use the price rise to break the contract, I ditched two boxes earlier in the year and kept TiVo, on M pack.

TiVo is painful and the channels I get are rubbish, I get a better choice on freesat. I might miss the Broadband, which is consistently good, but not good enough to keep me.

RichardCoulter · 23-08-2016, 21:10

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Originally Posted by nicknewark

I think Im Going to use the price rise to break the contract, I ditched two boxes earlier in the year and kept TiVo, on M pack.

TiVo is painful and the channels I get are rubbish, I get a better choice on freesat. I might miss the Broadband, which is consistently good, but not good enough to keep me.

Isn't the M pack free anyway? If you're getting rid of it in favour of buying g a Freesat box, this just shows how really bad it is.

OLD BOY · 24-08-2016, 08:10

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Originally Posted by nicknewark

I think Im Going to use the price rise to break the contract, I ditched two boxes earlier in the year and kept TiVo, on M pack.

TiVo is painful and the channels I get are rubbish, I get a better choice on freesat. I might miss the Broadband, which is consistently good, but not good enough to keep me.

It is true that Freesat currently have channels that are not on VM, but they are nothing to write home about. If you discount Spike and Movies4Men, which will be on VM shortly, what else is there of any interest?

Please don't say that you are doing all this to access 'Your TV'!

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On the whole, I am quite pleased with the update. I wanted to see a particular edition of 'Classic Albums' that I had missed, so I thought I'd try and get it through series link +.

Low and behold, the whole of this and even past series of the programme have popped up on My Shows. That includes the actual programme I was looking for. Didn't expect that! Well impressed.

It's really just the speed of the box and the need for more content now for me and I'm sticking with Virgin, albeit with half an eye on the escalating prices. I am not interested in sport, so those prices do not impact on me, but I have not ruled out accessing Sky Cinema via Now TV, which is cheaper.

nicknewark · 24-08-2016, 11:15

Cost is a big factor for me, The content I want just isn't available on VM. I also use Now TV to stream, picking up a three Month pass for £7, is a massive saving.

I also just got offered a free month of movies with Now TV, so for me it's the way forward. I was a big fan of VM, but TBH I think they have let the TV offering slide, and also let down customers.

I have for many years subscribed to pay TV via Sky/Virgin, but it just isn't worth it for me to be contracted in. Just my opinion. Whilst TIVO is a great product, it is very badly managed by Virgin.

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is it just my box, or has it become really slow to navigate in menu's. I never had a problem starting a saved recording, but now I get the circle spinning for sometime before the play back starts?

what ever they have done it hasn't improved the stability of the TIvo box in our home.

OLD BOY · 24-08-2016, 11:29

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Originally Posted by nicknewark

Cost is a big factor for me, The content I want just isn't available on VM. I also use Now TV to stream, picking up a three Month pass for £7, is a massive saving.

I also just got offered a free month of movies with Now TV, so for me it's the way forward. I was a big fan of VM, but TBH I think they have let the TV offering slide, and also let down customers.

I have for many years subscribed to pay TV via Sky/Virgin, but it just isn't worth it for me to be contracted in. Just my opinion. Whilst TIVO is a great product, it is very badly managed by Virgin.

What are these missing channels that you crave? Are you referring to Sky Atlantic and ITV Encore?