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31-01-2014, 11:00
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Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
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Hope it doesn`t harm his vprospects at BT as he is one of the best,if not the best pundits on the box
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31-01-2014, 13:34
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Andy Gray is not my cup of tea. BT may regret employing him despite his knowledge of the game.
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31-01-2014, 15:13
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Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
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Originally Posted by Doug P
Andy Gray is not my cup of tea. BT may regret employing him despite his knowledge of the game.
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Maybe not yours, but I thought he was the best commentator out there, by a mile! I think it's a great addition and strengthens BT's position.
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31-01-2014, 15:20
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Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
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Maybe not yours, but I thought he was the best commentator out there, by a mile! I think it's a great addition and strengthens BT's position.
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31-01-2014, 15:52
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I think Andy Gray is an excellent presenter, far better than Owen. It looks like someone has got it in for Gray releasing that video.
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31-01-2014, 16:09
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Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
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Originally Posted by solitaire
I think Andy Gray is an excellent presenter, far better than Owen. It looks like someone has got it in for Gray releasing that video.
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One suspects Sky aimed this squarely with the intention of doing damage to BT Sports in their ongoing battle.
Yes we all know Andy Gray is not perfect but there again nor are any of us.
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31-01-2014, 16:10
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Originally Posted by denphone
One suspects Sky aimed this squarely with the intention of doing damage to BT Sports in their ongoing battle.
Yes we all know Andy Gray is not perfect but there again nor are any of us.
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This.....
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31-01-2014, 16:19
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Can't believe so many of you are defending the sleazy womanising piece of crap that he has been shown to be, and that's probably only the stuff that's been discovered!
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31-01-2014, 16:49
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Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
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Originally Posted by paultrademark
Can't believe so many of you are defending the sleazy womanising piece of crap that he has been shown to be, and that's probably only the stuff that's been discovered!
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l am not defending anything but really society that try's to preach the puritanical view generally can't preach it to themselves and are the biggest hypocrites of the lot.
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31-01-2014, 17:56
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Considering the length of time between when various clips seem to have been recorded - 2011 for some clips, several years earlier for the most recent one published - I'm surprised that nobody at Sky warned Gray and Keys to stop their behaviour.
The release of "new" material now, presumably as an attempt to derail any attempt by Gray to restart his media career, reflects as badly on those who released it as it does on the man himself. A clip of him making sexist comments during the recent BT game would be newsworthy, but one recorded a decade ago tells us nothing we did not know about the man already.
If people have further clips, they should either publish them now or wipe them off their hard-drive for good. If I made a mistake which cost me my job, then losing my job was the punishment. My ex-employer would not proceed to contact every future employer to provide "new" evidence as to why they should not take me on, unless I asked them to provide a reference.
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31-01-2014, 20:42
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Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
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Originally Posted by paultrademark
Can't believe so many of you are defending the sleazy womanising piece of crap that he has been shown to be, and that's probably only the stuff that's been discovered!
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A bit harsh i'd say, you've never heard anything like this before?
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31-01-2014, 22:37
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Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
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l am not defending anything but really society that try's to preach the puritanical view generally can't preach it to themselves and are the biggest hypocrites of the lot.
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I know you are not defending him Den, but I am pleased to say I have never joined in with this behaviour, sober or otherwise. I went on holiday to South Tenerife many times when I was younger, and both myself and my friends found this type of behaviour rather boorish and childish and we tried hard to stay away from the groups of lads who would indulge in this type of behaviour. If I am out with work mates, and they try this behaviour I am always the stick in the mud who will not join in and will apologize to the females for my work mates behaviour - if they appear offended.
I try very hard to stick by the behaviours instilled in me by my parents and try to be a gentleman at all times.
Andy Gray (I imagine) would have been paid a considerable sum of money, and should have taken more responsibility. I wonder how long I would last at work if I asked some of the girls at work to "get their tits out for the lads" when they are not on the shop floor?
Terrible, terrible behaviour in my eyes.
I would be happy for Andy Gray (or anyone) to personally criticize any of my behaviours he/they may find offensive.
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Would be happy even if they only won one of those rights
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31-01-2014, 22:50
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch
I know you are not defending him Den, but I am pleased to say I have never joined in with this behaviour, sober or otherwise. I went on holiday to South Tenerife many times when I was younger, and both myself and my friends found this type of behaviour rather boorish and childish and we tried hard to stay away from the groups of lads who would indulge in this type of behaviour. If I am out with work mates, and they try this behaviour I am always the stick in the mud who will not join in and will apologize to the females for my work mates behaviour - if they appear offended.
I try very hard to stick by the behaviours instilled in me by my parents and try to be a gentleman at all times.
Andy Gray (I imagine) would have been paid a considerable sum of money, and should have taken more responsibility. I wonder how long I would last at work if I asked some of the girls at work to "get their tits out for the lads" when they are not on the shop floor?
Terrible, terrible behaviour in my eyes.
I would be happy for Andy Gray (or anyone) to personally criticize any of my behaviours he/they may find offensive.
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Would be happy even if they only won one of those rights
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Sounds like we share the same moral compass. I hate this type of laddish behavior and can't stand to be anywhere near it. The man is a tit. Just because he's good at talking football doesn't mean he deserves special treatment. That's sexual harassment in the work place.....full stop! It's not just the SKY stuff. So many stories of him being drunk and acting lewd towards young women. I seem to remember he burned out pretty badly 8 to 10 years ago on the drink whilst abroad causing chaos with his behavior. The mans got five children, by four different women and has only been married twice. Some of his kids don't talk to him at all. A total shambles but somehow a hero to some.
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31-01-2014, 22:58
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The man is a tit
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Or just a tit man.......
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