11-03-2011, 15:27
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha
No, because there is no concept of "same priority" in TIVO. .
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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice
Yes I think you have highlighted the fundamental issue with Tivo right now as you are saying you are forced to set a priority over different individual series recordings,
Tivo is trying to be too clever since I want to watch all and if something has to be sacrificed, it will be the padding at the end of the 9am programme, not the start of the programme at 10am
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I hadn't realised that tivo had to have priorities set, but thinking about it, it's the only way if it's going to chop things, including padding.
I've never set a priority on V+ because if it highlighted a clash, I sorted it out with a repeat or +1 channel, and it automatically dropped padding where needed.
It's good to know the tivo team know that people have requested the V+ system, but I do fear they may let the tivo system prevail and just add a global option to add padding.
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11-03-2011, 15:30
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Re: TiVo
I have given up on winning a Tivo as I am sure i would have heard by now Still it does say to give until 20th march but a lot of people seem to have heard by now
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11-03-2011, 16:05
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Re: TiVo
Been following this topic for a while, thought I'd let you all know got the call today saying I was a winner from the raffle. So there is still hope for some. and I'm in the Irlam area of greater Manchester.
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11-03-2011, 16:11
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by irlamblue
Been following this topic for a while, thought I'd let you all know got the call today saying I was a winner from the raffle. So there is still hope for some. and I'm in the Irlam area of greater Manchester.
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I will keep everything crossed thanks for letting me know and welcome to the forum
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11-03-2011, 16:18
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by passingbat
I hadn't realised that tivo had to have priorities set, but thinking about it, it's the only way if it's going to chop things, including padding.
I've never set a priority on V+ because if it highlighted a clash, I sorted it out with a repeat or +1 channel, and it automatically dropped padding where needed.
It's good to know the tivo team know that people have requested the V+ system, but I do fear they may let the tivo system prevail and just add a global option to add padding.
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I think you are getting too hung up on this padding thing. Remember it's TiVo and although VM are working with TiVo on this it's primarily their system that we are using so although they will add some features that VM want, they probably will not want to edit their system too much, changing the core functionality.
Until you have used it and also until the third tuner is active I would not pass judgement. Yes the V+ let's you set priority for series links or one off recordings. However TiVo let's you choose priority over which series link in more important.
For me this has been much better, due to the 3 or 4 really important links being at the top of my list and stuff I want to record but am not as bothered abo ut go at the bottom. I have never missed any of the shows. Yes sometimes the recordings start right at the beginning of the show but I have never missed more than 30 seconds of a show.
As for actual clashes, TiVo will smartly try to record the next showing of an episode if it can't record due to a clash.
I usually set a padding of 2 mins at the start and end of a series link and for some one off shows I tend not to add padding at all.
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11-03-2011, 16:30
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Stephen
I think you are getting too hung up on this padding thing. Remember it's TiVo and although VM are working with TiVo on this it's primarily their system that we are using so although they will add some features that VM want, they probably will not want to edit their system too much, changing the core functionality.
Until you have used it and also until the third tuner is active I would not pass judgement. Yes the V+ let's you set priority for series links or one off recordings. However TiVo let's you choose priority over which series link in more important.
For me this has been much better, due to the 3 or 4 really important links being at the top of my list and stuff I want to record but am not as bothered abo ut go at the bottom. I have never missed any of the shows. Yes sometimes the recordings start right at the beginning of the show but I have never missed more than 30 seconds of a show.
As for actual clashes, TiVo will smartly try to record the next showing of an episode if it can't record due to a clash.
I usually set a padding of 2 mins at the start and end of a series link and for some one off shows I tend not to add padding at all.
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indeed, TiVo is a lot smarter than V+.
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Originally Posted by denphone
I have just had a word with customer service and she claims to know nothing about Tivo or whether its rolling out.
Again since December Virgins communication has been nothing short of shambolic.
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Customer services won't know anything as it hasn't officially launched just yet.
You should of had an email telling you VM will be in touch near the end of March... the last few raffle winners are being contacted before 20th.
As I've posted before, you will get an email telling you how to order online... you will then be able to choose an install date.
VM will not be calling any pre-regs just keep an eye out for an email from the TiVo Team.
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11-03-2011, 16:46
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
indeed, TiVo is a lot smarter than V+.
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Customer services won't know anything as it hasn't officially launched just yet.
You should of had an email telling you VM will be in touch near the end of March... the last few raffle winners are being contacted before 20th.
As I've posted before, you will get an email telling you how to order online... you will then be able to choose an install date.
VM will not be calling any pre-regs just keep an eye out for an email from the TiVo Team. 
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So 9 days left, I wonder how many of us will be screaming at there telephones to ring on the 19th lol.
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11-03-2011, 16:59
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Kingofthedead4
So 9 days left, I wonder how many of us will be screaming at there telephones to ring on the 19th lol.
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Quite a few on here I would imagine LOL 
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Am I right in thinking that TIVO will always prioritise your recordings before suggestions ?
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11-03-2011, 17:00
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Am I right in thinking that TIVO will always prioritise your recordings before suggestions ?
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Yes. And as has been said above, how it does the rest is up to you.
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11-03-2011, 17:04
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
Yes. And as has been said above, how it does the rest is up to you.
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Thanks for that hadn't noticed it
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11-03-2011, 17:05
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Stephen
As for actual clashes, TiVo will smartly try to record the next showing of an episode if it can't record due to a clash.
I usually set a padding of 2 mins at the start and end of a series link and for some one off shows I tend not to add padding at all.
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
indeed, TiVo is a lot smarter than V+.
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No arguments there; in that aspect tivo is a big advantage over the V+. It's a shame that bit of TIVO couldn't be combined with the V+ padding features, but as Stephen says, this is a TIVO, and I sense the chances of V+ type padding being added are extreemly remote, even though it is a more sensible method
I hope you're right and in practice, and there won't be a problem; the third tuner will definitely help. The days of my 5 minutes before and after padding are probably over though...
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11-03-2011, 17:08
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Re: TiVo
Honestly you will not need the five minutes each side of the recordings. I use 2 at most and that is more than enough. However as has been mentioned TiVo is smarter than V+ and since I started using TiVo I haven't once used my V+.
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11-03-2011, 17:26
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Stephen
Honestly you will not need the five minutes each side of the recordings. I use 2 at most and that is more than enough. However as has been mentioned TiVo is smarter than V+ and since I started using TiVo I haven't once used my V+.
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When I first get tivo I'll be setting zero padding, until I can expeiment with some 'test' shows.
5 minuets was probably more than necessary, but that's where V+ excelled in padding functionlity, it caught the odd show that needed it but didn't affect back to back shows.
I know we're all meant to bow down to the "Great TIVO", but not acknowledging that V+ did some things better, is just wrong in my view. You can still say that overall, TIVO is a far superior product (which I think is the case) whilst admitting that V+ did some things better (upcaling SD is possibly another one).
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11-03-2011, 18:08
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Re: TiVo
To anyone who has TiVo installed:
Is there an 'Interactive' Option like Menu - Option 7 (I think) on the V+?
I don't remember seeing it on the screen shots posted here and elsewhere. I only really use it to check the BBC teletext feature. Would be a shame to not have it on TiVo but not the end of the world as I'll just flip to freeview for it
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11-03-2011, 18:25
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Re: TiVo
I have to say that my first impressions of TIVO ( after having it a while ) are brilliant and would well be worth the £149.
1 - The BBC I-PLAYER App has more shows on it than the catch up service.
2 - The YOU-TUBE App has good videos ( picture quality on some are dire ).
3 - The recording is brilliant as i have not messed with anything, but have not missed the start or end of anything that i have recorded.
4 - It is brilliant if something gets deleted that you are able to recover the item.
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P.S i have to say that i love my TIVO and also on a last note YOU HAD ME AT TIVO   [COLOR="Silver"]
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Originally Posted by Joedm45
To anyone who has TiVo installed:
Is there an 'Interactive' Option like Menu - Option 7 (I think) on the V+?
I don't remember seeing it on the screen shots posted here and elsewhere. I only really use it to check the BBC teletext feature. Would be a shame to not have it on TiVo but not the end of the world as I'll just flip to freeview for it
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No i have not come across one as yet?
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