Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III. - Page 282

Media Boy UK · 09-11-2011, 14:25

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Total channels have gone up by 1, Anyone got any clues?

I have try to found out what been added by playing about with my box (Like going info all of on demand.) And I still did not find any thing new.

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

any updates yet on new channels

No new channels confrim but ITV2, ITV3 and ITV4 HD channels and BoxNation are rumour to be set to launch on Virgin this month.

bamav · 09-11-2011, 15:07

Thought so.. been away for a short while, wanted to come back to find out "what's coming soon to VM" and yet again I have to scroll through pages of mince, which to be blunt is a massive insult to Media Boy and his work. To all of you not discussing the topic, please go elsewhere!

I'm just about to work out now how to ignore some of the plonkers on this thread...

devilincarnate · 09-11-2011, 15:10

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

I have try to found out what been added by playing about with my box (Like going info all of on demand.) And I still did not find any thing new.

Yes it is the same as me, As I have tried to find out but it has left me baffled

Media Boy UK · 09-11-2011, 15:52

Love turns to hate as BSkyB closes Sky Living Loves in January.

Broadcast now is reporting that BSkyB will close Sky Living Loves on January 24th 2012.

Sky Living Loves is broadcasting on Virgin Channel 159 right now.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=63

Info from DS Forum.

telboy007 · 09-11-2011, 18:23

I do love the fact Sky bought the VM channels and then pretty much got rid of the majority of them. Idiots.

Media Boy UK · 09-11-2011, 21:19

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

Love turns to hate as BSkyB closes Sky Living Loves in January.

Broadcast now is reporting that BSkyB will close Sky Living Loves on January 24th 2012.

Sky Living Loves is broadcasting on Virgin Channel 159 right now.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=63

Info from DS Forum.

An Sky viewer thinks Sky may axe their SD Channels next year (If they broadcast in HD).

They think the following channels may close.
-Sky1
-Sky Arts 1
-Sky Arts 2
-Sky Living

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...3&postcount=16

BenMcr · 09-11-2011, 21:25

The SD versions of those channels are only downscaled from the HD channels anyway as far as I'm aware so there isn't anything to axe. Even if they removed the SD listing all HD boxes can output an HD channel via Scart anyway (again as far as I'm aware)

But can't see it happening anyway, HD hasn't progressed that far into their own customer base to warrant it

japitts · 10-11-2011, 00:33

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

I think Channel 5 deal with Virgin is up in 2012.

I think that is why we are not getting Channel 5 +1 until sometime in 2012.

The last one was signed in July 2010.

That makes sense, and C5+1 is not the most crucial channel out there.. but this does rather beg the question of what happens with any new channel launching from an existing provider, mid-contract?

RichardCoulter · 10-11-2011, 03:53

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Originally Posted by telboy007

I do love the fact Sky bought the VM channels and then pretty much got rid of the majority of them. Idiots.

It's the usual Sky tactic of exterminating competition by any means.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

An Sky viewer thinks Sky may axe their SD Channels next year (If they broadcast in HD).

They think the following channels may close.
-Sky1
-Sky Arts 1
-Sky Arts 2
-Sky Living

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...3&postcount=16

First the closure of the SD launch queue (which many believe is no longer justified) and now this. If this is true, it may be a repeat of the changeover from analogue to digital process that Sky deployed ie small changes to steer customers in the "right" direction, followed by a more aggressive incentive to change.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

The SD versions of those channels are only downscaled from the HD channels anyway as far as I'm aware so there isn't anything to axe. Even if they removed the SD listing all HD boxes can output an HD channel via Scart anyway (again as far as I'm aware)

But can't see it happening anyway, HD hasn't progressed that far into their own customer base to warrant it

I didn't know that Ben, I thought that many Sky customers would be on HD now as only HD boxes have been available for some time.

With the reduced costs in relation to ceasing SD transmissions, it may be cost effective for them to offer free/subsidised HD boxes to push people onto HD.

If this action were to proceed, I wonder if VM would follow suit as it may be that their fees to Sky decrease without the SD version. They may, however, decide to still offer SD, if there are no contractual restraints, by downscaling the HD version (or is this how they do it anyway?)

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Originally Posted by japitts

That makes sense, and C5+1 is not the most crucial channel out there.. but this does rather beg the question of what happens with any new channel launching from an existing provider, mid-contract?

Yes, it does seem to be the case with VM that they don't like renegotiating contracts mid term. I wonder why this is so? This happens in wider business all the time. I think there must be a standard channel "swap over" clause, as many times new channels are only available at the expense of removing another one. To have extra channels/s from an existing provider would presumably mean a change in the amount of money paid/received by VM, apart from any no cost to either party arrangements.

Alan Fry · 10-11-2011, 10:30

why did virgin agree to sell their tv channel in the way they did it

all we have got is about 10 hd channels (very good ones), on the other hand vm should have been more demanding

like getting, sky news hd, sky sports news hd, sky sports hd3 and 4, sky atlantic, sky atlantic hd, sky 3d etc

Digital Fanatic · 10-11-2011, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

why did virgin agree to sell their tv channel in the way they did it

all we have got is about 10 hd channels (very good ones), on the other hand vm should have been more demanding

like getting, sky news hd, sky sports news hd, sky sports hd3 and 4, sky atlantic, sky atlantic hd, sky 3d etc

Virgin also got Sky Anytime from Sky for that deal. The other channels weren't broadcasting at the time of the deal. Sky sports 1 & 2 HD channels are part of the Ofcom investigation.

Sky aren't going to give VM Sky3D any time soon!

Alan Fry · 10-11-2011, 11:08

i bet sky has puchased boxnation (to stop virgin from getting it) and have renamed it sky boxnation

mabe they put sky boxnation on sky living loves epc slot and put sky boxnation hd of the boxnation epg slot

denphone · 10-11-2011, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

i bet sky has puchased boxnation (to stop virgin from getting it) and have renamed it sky boxnation

mabe they put sky boxnation on sky living loves epc slot and put sky boxnation hd of the boxnation epg slot

As it currently stands Sky have nothing to do with Boxnation as this is a seperate entity set up by Frank Warren and associates.

Alan Fry · 10-11-2011, 11:25

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Originally Posted by denphone

As it currently stands Sky have nothing to do with Boxnation as this is a seperate entity set up by Frank Warren and associates.

i was joking!

or was i?

BenMcr · 10-11-2011, 11:26

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I didn't know that Ben, I thought that many Sky customers would be on HD now as only HD boxes have been available for some time.

From their own results:

As of September 2011
Total TV customers 10,213,000
Total HD customers 3,925,000

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With the reduced costs in relation to ceasing SD transmissions, it may be cost effective for them to offer free/subsidised HD boxes to push people onto HD.

Sky only install HD capable boxes now, but not all of them will be HD activated due to the extra monthly cost