TiVo

[toady]

Originally Posted by Stephen

This is TiVo a product that has been around for about ten years. They can't just change the way it has always worked as a couple of people think the V+ did padding better.

Why not, VirginMedia are the customer, and we are the customers of VM. If the customers request that they want a particular function (just like a third tuner), then TIVO should respond to the request

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Stephen

This is TiVo a product that has been around for about ten years. They can't just change the way it has always worked as a couple of people think the V+ did padding better.

Out of interest, do you think Tivo does it better than V+?

Why not, VirginMedia are the customer, and we are the customers of VM. If the customers request that they want a particular function (just like a third tuner), then TIVO should respond to the request

toady makes a very good point.

[Perfect Choice]

Originally Posted by Stephen

This is TiVo a product that has been around for about ten years. They can't just change the way it has always worked as a couple of people think the V+ did padding better.

Hardly a couple of people, seen plenty of comments here complaining about the padding and VM have acknowledged there is an issue, since they are implementing an update in September to change the padding approach. If it was fine, they would not need to do anything.

[Stephen]

I for one have not had any issues. Yes there are some recordings that start right at the beginning of the show but nothing that means I have missed anything.

I do think that once the 3rd tuner is active it will sort out the padding 'issues' some people are having.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Stephen

I for one have not had any issues. Yes there are some recordings that start right at the beginning of the show but nothing that means I have missed anything.

I do think that once the 3rd tuner is active it will sort out the padding 'issues' some people are having.

Stephen, do you know if the TIVO team aware that some people have asked for padding to be mplemented as it is on V+?

[pauldavies83]

Originally Posted by toady

Why not, VirginMedia are the customer, and we are the customers of VM. If the customers request that they want a particular function (just like a third tuner), then TIVO should respond to the request

I get the feeling this relationship isn't going to work like that

[Perfect Choice]

Well good to hear at least.

I've just seen nobody state what happens when the 22:00 recording is the same priority as the 21:00 recordings with 5 minutes padding, which could be the case if all these recordings are series recordings.

Is the 5 minute end padding dropped on one of the 21.00 recordings to allow the 22.00 recording to start when they all have the same priority, because that is what you really want?

This is what happens right now on V+ and I have to say with 3 tuners and while watching a live programe I'm not recording, I've had padding dropped on the 2 other recordings when there are back to back programmes scheduled to record. Perfectly happy for the padding to be dropped, just want to check the same happens with Tivo, be it that right now you have to set up invidual recording padding which I could live with until September.

[muppetman11]

To be fair my V+ has missed the start and the end of shows although not very often , its mostly reliable. Anybody heard anymore about the TIVO 500gb box ?

[MickEP]

I have just tried to set a remote record,via the website and says that I don't have an active TiVo, do I have ring VM to activate the box?, or will it be automatically activated ( TiVo was installed yesterday)
Thanks
Mick

[weesteev]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Stephen, do you know if the TIVO team aware that some people have asked for padding to be mplemented as it is on V+?

Yes they are

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Originally Posted by MickEP

I have just tried to set a remote record,via the website and says that I don't have an active TiVo, do I have ring VM to activate the box?, or will it be automatically activated ( TiVo was installed yesterday)
Thanks
Mick

rIt might take around 24 hours to appear online. My TiVo wasn't available online for about 2 days after install.

[MickEP]

Thanks weesteev

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by weesteev

Yes they are.

Thanks.

[ntl.wotcha]

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

I've just seen nobody state what happens when the 22:00 recording is the same priority as the 21:00 recordings with 5 minutes padding, which could be the case if all these recordings are series recordings.

No, because there is no concept of "same priority" in TIVO. You have to prioritise your series links in the management screen. That then determines priority of recordings. As I said in my post last night, if the 22.00 show has a higher priority then it will clip lower priority padding. However, your worst case scenario is that the 22.00 show is lower priority than both 21.00 recordings, in which case you will lose the first 5 minutes of the 22.00 show.

The only scenario I'm not sure about is if all 3 recordings are on-offs in which case I'm not sure if they are all equal priority. The logical way to do that is that the later recording gets the priority and clips off padding on the previous. One to test out I guess.

I think we're all in agreement that the V+ system is preferable. It may be that in the US padding is far less important because they have so many damn adverts ! It's only BBC stuff over here that frequently runs over the hour.

[denphone]

I have just had a word with customer service and she claims to know nothing about Tivo or whether its rolling out.
Again since December Virgins communication has been nothing short of shambolic.

[Perfect Choice]

Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha

No, because there is no concept of "same priority" in TIVO. You have to prioritise your series links in the management screen. That then determines priority of recordings. As I said in my post last night, if the 22.00 show has a higher priority then it will clip lower priority padding. However, your worst case scenario is that the 22.00 show is lower priority than both 21.00 recordings, in which case you will lose the first 5 minutes of the 22.00 show.

The only scenario I'm not sure about is if all 3 recordings are on-offs in which case I'm not sure if they are all equal priority. The logical way to do that is that the later recording gets the priority and clips off padding on the previous. One to test out I guess.

I think we're all in agreement that the V+ system is preferable. It may be that in the US padding is far less important because they have so many damn adverts ! It's only BBC stuff over here that frequently runs over the hour.

Yes I think you have highlighted the fundamental issue with Tivo right now as you are saying you are forced to set a priority over different individual series recordings, so I have to set a different priority for recording House on Sky 1 and Being Human on BBC3 if on at the same time and then there is something else at 10am I want to record as well. Tivo is trying to be too clever since I want to watch all and if something has to be sacrificed, it will be the padding at the end of the 9am programme, not the start of the programme at 10am! The way around this I guess is always to set the 10pm programme on a higher priority than one of the 9am programmes so that it will force cut off of the padding on the 9am recording, so a work around anyway but have to apply for every back to back recording?

You are right about BBC, ever tried starting a recording and discovering you have just missed the first 2 minutes of the programme because you were forced to give a higher priority to the previous porgramme, very annoying. My wife will throw Tivo through the window if it does much of that!