UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal
13-10-2020, 22:51
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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It seemed to offend you.
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How so? 
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14-10-2020, 00:42
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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As much help as you usually are, and with the same amount if verisimilitude - just constantly repeating falsehoods doesn’t make them true...
Oh, sorry - I forgot you are a BoJo supporter...
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Did that dictionary go down well, Hugh?
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14-10-2020, 13:21
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Did that dictionary go down well, Hugh?
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14-10-2020, 13:51
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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15-10-2020, 08:20
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
Are we not walking away yet?
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15-10-2020, 09:18
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Are we not walking away yet?
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Why do you ask?
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15-10-2020, 10:19
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Are we not walking away yet?
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The PM is waiting for the outcome of the meeting of EU leaders today. Then he will decide whether it’s best just to walk away.
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15-10-2020, 10:23
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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The PM is waiting for the outcome of the meeting of EU leaders today. Then he will decide whether it’s best just to walk away.
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I suspect he’s waiting in the outcome of the US election.
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15-10-2020, 10:43
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
Making myself a hostage to fortune, I'd bet that the EU won't blink because they think Boris will bend. If that's the case, Boris should break off talks and invite them to restart them when the EU has some reasonable compromise to offer.
Boris's cred is low at the moment and he must keep to his word because the EU is a perfidious negotiator, particularly driven by the equally perfidious French and Irish governments.
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15-10-2020, 18:05
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Making myself a hostage to fortune, I'd bet that the EU won't blink because they think Boris will bend. If that's the case, Boris should break off talks and invite them to restart them when the EU has some reasonable compromise to offer.
Boris's cred is low at the moment and he must keep to his word because the EU is a perfidious negotiator, particularly driven by the equally perfidious French and Irish governments.
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Based on what Boris has done with an international treaty, I suspect most impartial observers feel he's a closer fit for "perfidious".
But Boris rolled over on the Withdrawal Agreement so chances are he'll do the same again, I agree. But this time, the EU will want some guarantee he'll honour the agreement.
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15-10-2020, 19:33
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Based on what Boris has done with an international treaty, I suspect most impartial observers feel he's a closer fit for "perfidious".
But Boris rolled over on the Withdrawal Agreement so chances are he'll do the same again, I agree. But this time, the EU will want some guarantee he'll honour the agreement.
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An EU lover would say that.
By putting in the Bill when he did was serious act of folly for, among others, the reason you gave in your second paragraph.
I've no problem with repudiation of the WA as may be necessary to protect our sovereignty at the end of December if er don't have a deal.
The EU are being unreasonable and Boris has been stupid.
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15-10-2020, 23:46
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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An EU lover would say that.
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I'm sure they would, but so would an impartial observer. Signing an international agreement and then unilaterally revoking part of it meets the definition of perfidious, namely "unable to be trusted".
Even if it were the worst agreement in the world.
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16-10-2020, 12:06
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
Brexit: Boris Johnson says it's time to 'get ready' for no deal with EU
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-bo...th-eu-12105527
The prime minister claimed: "Unless there's a fundamental change of approach, we should go for the Australia solution."
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16-10-2020, 12:45
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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“Coming to a free trade agreement with the EU should be one of the easiest in human history.” – Liam Fox, International Trade Secretary, July 2017.
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16-10-2020, 12:48
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