2015 UK General Election Thread

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I can see this happening. And yes l am serious.

Labour
UKIP
Conservative
Lib Dems with Clegg forced to resign

At the moment polls are showing a 3/4 point difference between Labour /Tory with UKIP at 18% and Libs a dim 8%

Who would have thought that

And l feel that, there will be a fight between SNP (Labour will lose most seats in Scotland, that has seen Labour Voters) of Cameron / Miliband talking with that sexy SNP Sturgeon for the best deal to gain power

UKIP will not win anywhere near enough seats to become the opposition. I am not every sure they're contesting enough seats to make that possible. If UKIP get 5 seats they'll have done well. How do you translate 18% of the vote to that share?

Anyway.

YouGov/Sun poll has a slight improvement for the Tories:

CON 35 (+1)
LAB 34 (-1)
LD 8 (=)
UKIP 12 (-1)
GRN 4 (-1)

But this should worry everyone:

The Times/YouGov Scotland poll:

SNP 49 +3
Lab 25 -4
Con 18 +2
LD 4 +1

The two most overused words in the electioneering so far must be promise and guaranteed..and the least believable.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

The two most overused words in the electioneering so far must be promise and guaranteed..and the least believable.

and two words that never get used YES/NO

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

The two most overused words in the electioneering so far must be promise and guaranteed..and the least believable.

Lies Lies and more Lies they will never change

[Arthurgray50@blu]

http://news.sky.com/story/1463076/ma...-will-axe-fall

IF, the Tories get in again, they claim they will spend millions on the NHS, BUT they wont say where this will come from - Like Labour has said where they will get it from.

My assumption will be that Osborne will hit the Welfare budget again, and make several benefits harder to get.

Disability, Job seekers, and benefit that will FORCE people back into low paid jobs.

They wont increase Tax for the wealthy, as this will hit the donations that come from the rich.

[Hom3r]

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co...bt-monger.html

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co...bt-monger.html

Yeah but that's labours fault apparently

To be fair the natural consequence of inheriting a large deficit in a struggling economy is that the debt will increase. I am not sure how the Tories could have stopped that when they come into office.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Damien

To be fair the natural consequence of inheriting a large deficit in a struggling economy is that the debt will increase. I am not sure how the Tories could have stopped that when they come into office.

if Labour had doubled debt in 5 years you would not hear last of it

Originally Posted by Dave42

if Labour had doubled debt in 5 years you would not hear last of it

No but it wouldn't make it right in that case either.

The deficit adds the debt. A large deficit will mean you need to borrow more which will increase the debt. They inherited a pretty big deficit. That said they didn't cut it anywhere near as much as they said they would.The Conservatives seem to actually have reverted to what Labour's plans where had they won the election.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Damien

No but it wouldn't make it right in that case either.

The deficit adds the debt. A large deficit will mean you need to borrow more which will increase the debt. They inherited a pretty big deficit. That said they didn't cut it anywhere near as much as they said they would.The Conservatives seem to actually have reverted to what Labour's plans where had they won the election.

and who Coursed the debt the bankers and who never got punished the bankers and who did get punished the poorest

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yeah but that's labours fault apparently

Er ... Yes, actually, if you inherit a budget that has a large structural deficit, then you will inevitably rack up large debts while you try to re-balance it.

But hey, someone posted a trite one-liner on the Internet, so it must be true.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Dave42

and who Coursed the debt the bankers and who never got punished the bankers and who did get punished the poorest

If that is the case, why did debt start rising in 2001/02? Did the banking crisis start back then?
Labour increased the debt from £316bn in 2000/01 to £1,101bn in 2010/11. That's a trebling of debt.
Public sector borrowing was slightly less in 2013/14(98.5bn) than in 2008/09(100.8bn).
As the table I found says:-

Note: (a) borrowing & debt figures exclude public sector banks

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by nomadking

If that is the case, why did debt start rising in 2001/02? Did the banking crisis start back then?
Labour increased the debt from £316bn in 2000/01 to £1,101bn in 2010/11. That's a trebling of debt.
Public sector borrowing was slightly less in 2013/14(98.5bn) than in 2008/09(100.8bn).
As the table I found says:-

and the tories DOUBLED the debt in 5 years despite all the cuts and the banking crisis made the debt much worse in 2007/08 that bankers fault no one elses so no labour didn't treble debt as banking crisis done most of it

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Dave42

and the tories DOUBLED the debt in 5 years despite all the cuts

Labour seemed to have DOUBLED the debt BEFORE any banking crisis. £316.4bn in 2000/01 to £724.4bn in 2008/09. Labour borrowed £153.5bn in 2009/10. You can't cut that amount of borrowing "overnight".