Child grooming gang found guilty - Page 28

nomadking · 22-05-2013, 23:47

Another week and yet another case.
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A young girl was repeatedly raped and sexually abused by 10 friends over a five-year period, a court has heard.
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There are 44 charges against 10 defendants but the complainant told detectives she was also forced to have sex with several other men who are not on trial.
The court heard that on 29 October 2011 Iblal Fiaz drove her to a hotel and dropped her off with an unknown man who raped her.
Despite bleeding, she was then raped by two other men, the prosecutor said, Mudassar Hussain, 19, and Jubroin Khan, 21.

Russ · 22-05-2013, 23:51

Nothing racial in this one either presumably.

spreadsheet · 22-05-2013, 23:51

Blair and his multiculturalsim

how we are all enriched

Russ · 10-06-2013, 05:42

http://news.sky.com/story/1101483/gr...gangs-do-exist

I think we all knew this and now it's finally getting some acknowledgement.

Osem · 10-06-2013, 08:35

An inconvenient truth methinks.

Russ · 10-06-2013, 09:10

When listening to certain groups discuss this I get the feeling they almost wish for a group of white British men to get caught as a sex gang just to try to 'balance' it out.

**Damien** · 10-06-2013, 09:35

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Originally Posted by Russ

When listening to certain groups discuss this I get the feeling they almost wish for a group of white British men to get caught as a sex gang just to try to 'balance' it out.

Well there have been groups of white men arrested before...

Russ · 10-06-2013, 09:36

Has there been enough evidence to prosecute them in court?

Osem · 10-06-2013, 09:41

The central issue here remains that these groups targeted exclusively girls from outside their communities. Whilst some people within those communities have been brave enough to admit that, it seems some people in authority didn't want to 'stir up trouble' by exposing it. In so doing they've done more harm than good to community relations.

Russ · 10-06-2013, 09:48

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Originally Posted by Osem

The central issue here remains that these groups targeted exclusively girls from outside their communities. Whilst some people within those communities have been brave enough to admit that, it seems some people in authority didn't want to 'stir up trouble' by exposing it. In so doing they've done more harm than good to community relations.

This is what I think the problem is. The authorities seem to feel that 'community cohesion' takes priority.

Osem · 10-06-2013, 10:04

It may not even be the whole truth, but it's clear to me that the wider public perception is along those lines and thus far the authorities have done very little to change that view by failing to adequately explain their 'rationale'.

These crimes are horrific in any community and need to be exposed and punished wherever they arise from and whoever the victims are, even if doing that sometimes means treading on the toes of the PC brigade.

nomadking · 10-06-2013, 13:19

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Well there have been groups of white men arrested before...

Oh dear, trying to avoid the issues are we.

1) There are not many 'white' gangs. It is mainly individuals acting alone.
2) Where there are, they have to search far and wide, eg using internet, to find others. They can't simply ask the person next to them as the "Asian' gangs seem to be able to do.
3) They tend to only be interested in sexual gratification. the 'Asian' gangs go way beyond that with their behaviour.
4) The 'asian' gangs pass them around to MANY others around the country. Those others DON'T appear in the figures and therefore the %age of 'Asian' involvement is significantly under represented. Eg if there are 9 others('customers') for each of those convicted, then the actual figures would be out by a factor of 10. If the 'customer'-organiser ratio is higher, then the figures are out by even more.

Their actions go way beyond just sexual gratification and yet they had no problem finding others willing to take part in their gang or be "customers". How many people would consider it that easy to find others in their circle (ie family, work, friends) to take part or not report them to the police. What does that say about their circle of family, work colleagues and friends? It suggests a very high percentage of people in their circle are willing to take part and just need somebody else to approach them with the idea. EXTREMELY SCARY.

**Damien** · 10-06-2013, 13:38

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Oh dear, trying to avoid the issues are we.

No, Just pointing out that there had been. Calm Down.

Russ · 10-06-2013, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Damien

No, Just pointing out that there had been. Calm Down.

Can you find links to such cases? I'm not saying there haven't been any by the way.

nomadking · 10-06-2013, 14:07

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Originally Posted by Damien

No, Just pointing out that there had been. Calm Down.

White 'gangs' acting in this manner?

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Many of the seven men worked for or had connections with fast-food restaurants across Telford and some of the girls were sold for sex to workers.
The men were all arrested as part of West Mercia Police's Operation Chalice. Officers said the total number of girls targeted between 2007 and 2009 could be above 100.

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An Old Bailey jury heard six girls were drugged and suffered sadistic abuse while aged between 11 and 15. The court heard victims were plied with alcohol and drugs before being forced to perform sex acts. Some had also been beaten, burnt and threatened.

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Some of the girls were beaten and forced to have sex with "several men in a day, several times a week", the jury was told. One teenager told the jury she was forced to have sex with 20 men in one night.
Another recalled being raped by two men while she was "so drunk she was vomiting over the side of the bed".