President Trump 2.0

Originally Posted by Pierre

Harris is a terrible candidate. Dementia Biden or Vacuous Harris……you’re getting the same administration.

The problem with American elections now though is that they cannot secure the ballots.

It’s far too open to fraud and manipulation, either side can call foul and dispute the result.

Well, they're both poor candidates hence the close race. The Democrats probably should have a full primary but after Biden dropped out - who was certain to lose after that debate - she was the easiest replacement. Still the right one after she won her debate whereas Biden would probably have lost again.

Their system is nuts but there wasn't any evidence of mass fraud and manipulation at the last few elections. The biggest problems they have are long queues, not enough polling stations in some districts and they take forever to count them.

Trump will contest the result but if he wins I hope Harris won't. Americans need to get back to a peaceful transfer of power otherwise I think it's not repairable. If Trump wins and she accepts then at least that will be one less problem for them going forward.

Early voting data shows, Trump winning this, unlike 2020, Harris hasn’t obtained a firewall protection in key states, compared to Biden, this same time prior to election day. Betting markets, also favour Trump.

Harris’s issue is, all she does is attack Trump, has zero policies, is absolutely dire, answering basic questions, & all she spouts is a word salad.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Early voting data shows, Trump winning this, unlike 2020, Harris hasn’t obtained a firewall protection in key states, compared to Biden, this same time prior to election day. Betting markets, also favour Trump.

Harris’s issue is, all she does is attack Trump, has zero policies, is absolutely dire, answering basic questions, & all she spouts is a word salad.

Harris and Trump have many faults but Trump owns the word 🥗 award!

Originally Posted by Mick

Early voting data shows, Trump winning this, unlike 2020, Harris hasn’t obtained a firewall protection in key states, compared to Biden, this same time prior to election day. Betting markets, also favour Trump.

Harris’s issue is, all she does is attack Trump, has zero policies, is absolutely dire, answering basic questions, & all she spouts is a word salad.

Mmm. You mean like Polymarket, substantially underwritten by GOP mega-donor Peter Theil, and which has to date taken $45 million in microbets on Trump from four accounts controlled by one unknown individual?

The problem with the idea that betting markets best predict elections is that once a few extremely wealthy, politically motivated individuals understand that, betting markets become prime disinformation vehicles. Especially in the context of a US election, where political betting is illegal and the site in question is therefore overseas and out of reach.

At this stage the only polls that count are the internal ones we can’t see directly. But look at the demeanour of Trump. Look at Vance. And look at Harris, who held a major rally in Texas - Texas - yesterday. Less than a fortnight before the election and she’s not even in one of the swing states you think she’s losing. She believes Texas is in play.

These are the facts you as a GOP fan should be worrying about.

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P.S. with GOP talking points right now, the adage ’every accusation is an admission’ is very much in play. Accusing Harris of having verbal diarrhoea is a vain attempt to distract from the diarrhoea filling Trump's rallies - and his nappies - whenever he takes to the stage.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Mick

Early voting data shows, Trump winning this, unlike 2020, Harris hasn’t obtained a firewall protection in key states, compared to Biden, this same time prior to election day. Betting markets, also favour Trump.

Harris’s issue is, all she does is attack Trump, has zero policies, is absolutely dire, answering basic questions, & all she spouts is a word salad.

Sorry Mick but you have all that backwards. Trump is the one constantly attacking Harris and Waltz. Harris has policies and has talked about them. Trump and Vance have nothing other than, we'll put everyone in Jail if we get in to power that doesn't speak nicely to us, to be fair that's more a Trump thing. Vance just casually goes along with it.

Oh and word salad, Trump definitely has the world's bestest word salad trophy in the box.

Texas is definitely not in play for Harris. Early voting data shows, she’s struggling gaining a comfortable cushion in most States, like Biden had this time in 2020.

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Sorry Mick but you have all that backwards. Trump is the one constantly attacking Harris and Waltz. Harris has policies and has talked about them. Trump and Vance have nothing other than, we'll put everyone in Jail if we get in to power that doesn't speak nicely to us, to be fair that's more a Trump thing. Vance just casually goes along with it.

Oh and word salad, Trump definitely has the world's bestest word salad trophy in the box.

Rubbish. Totally disagree with all that. The CNN debate on Wednesday night, she even lost that & she was the only one there, not answering in meaningful sentences.

[Pierre]

Well Trump has just done a 3hr session with Joe Rogan, that I am going to listen to later. There aren’t many places to hide in a 3hr interview/discussion.

You can guarantee it’s not scripted or that he won’t have been given any questions beforehand, so his mental agility will there for all to see and hear.

[Stephen]

He was too busy doing that podcast to turn up for his rally scheduled at the same time. So he was 3 hours late for the rally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...e93_video.html

Many Trump rally-goers left the venue after former president Donald Trump was around three hours late to his own rally in Traverse City, Mich., on Oct. 25.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Stephen

He was too busy doing that podcast to turn up for his rally scheduled at the same time. So he was 3 hours late for the rally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...e93_video.html

Joe Rogan has an audience of near 20million, time well spent I would imagine. His fans won’t mind waiting

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Joe Rogan has an audience of near 20million, time well spent I would imagine. His fans won’t mind waiting

Lots of people were seen leaving. They weren't told about the delay and only shown a video of Trump after already waiting a while.

The former president started hours late, causing many rally goers to leave before he took the stage. The temperature dropped at the outdoor venue as he spoke, causing even more people to walk out early.

There was also person(s) collapsing again. So he paused and played Ave Maria again.

Originally Posted by Mick

Texas is definitely not in play for Harris.

Whether it is or not isn’t for me to say. My point is, if you want to cut through the publicly available data, all of which is subject to spin and misrepresentation, watch how the candidates are actually behaving.

Harris is behaving like she believes she can win, even in places she would not have expected to.

Trump is cancelling debates, interviews and town halls left right and centre, swaying to music instead of answering questions from voters and hiding in studios with sympathetic podcasters for hours.

I know which one of those two people *believes* they’re winning.

Originally Posted by Mick

Early voting data shows, Trump winning this, unlike 2020, Harris hasn’t obtained a firewall protection in key states, compared to Biden, this same time prior to election day. Betting markets, also favour Trump.

This is because Republicans this time are advocating voting early.

The early vote is dangerous to analyse because it ultimately shifts votes from election day to before election day. It could be evidence that Trump is leading or it could be evidence that more of his voters are going early this time and he won't have quite the same surge on election day.

It will hopefully stop the 'blue shift' that we saw with the initial votes on election day—which are counted first in most states—trending Republican before the early vote trended Democrat.

Nobody knows how the election will go. It's 50/50. Harris leads by a single percentage point in some swing states, Trump in others. They are neck and neck in the popular vote as well.

As I said a few posts back this also leads us to the interesting chance that for the first time in a long time, maybe ever, there could be a Democratic President who didn't win the popular vote!

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Goes for the majority of the USA. Mostly nutters which is Donny might get his get out jail free card.

To quote my great great granddaddy "and they give these people the vote!" Most of us won't get it in his world !

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Chris

Trump is cancelling debates, interviews and town halls left right and centre, swaying to music instead of answering questions from voters and hiding in studios with sympathetic podcasters for hours.
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Hiding in studios with sympathetic podcasters, you’re a piece of work.

I just listened to it, he sounded perfectly lucid to me. 3hrs straight and he laid out policies, something Harris is incapable of doing.

There’s a standing invite for Harris, I doubt she’ll take it.

He couldn’t continue with the town hall because there were two medical emergencies in the crowd with paramedics treating them.

You want him to continue taking questions in that scenario? He couldn’t end it either and have people leaving walking by as people are being treated, so he filled time.

Harris did a “town hall” where she took no questions at all and any interview she does with anyone but Fox is sympathetic to her.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Hiding in studios with sympathetic podcasters, you’re a piece of work.

I just listened to it, he sounded perfectly lucid to me. 3hrs straight and he laid out policies, something Harris is incapable of doing.

There’s a standing invite for Harris, I doubt she’ll take it.

He couldn’t continue with the town hall because there were two medical emergencies in the crowd with paramedics treating them.

You want him to continue taking questions in that scenario? He couldn’t end it either and have people leaving walking by as people are being treated, so he filled time.

Harris did a “town hall” where she took no questions at all and any interview she does with anyone but Fox is sympathetic to her.

As I have no intention of listening to it, for a counterpoint I’ll simply offer this.

https://x.com/mikecosper/status/1850...56-Kgau3lzowJw
He’s an author apparently, and happens to be in my ‘for you’ feed at the moment.