Climate Change - record World temp. rises in Feb.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

I eat tofu now and again as Mrs G is vegetarian.

Instead of criticising maybe try supporting.

Declaring a climate emergency signals that the elected members of Leeds City Council recognise there is an issue. The declaration is the start of a change in policies/practices and direction so a bit more than a gesture, but yes in the whole scheme of things anything done will only make a very small impact but if every local authority follows - remember even the mightiest river starts from a few drops of rain.

Sorry, but this is nonsense. Declaring a climate emergency is as effective as Slough Borough Council declaring a nuclear free zone.

True, Slough did not get nuked, but that was nothing to do with its declaration. And just like 'climate change', they had no power to do what they declared anyway! Just politically motivated leftie councillors going well beyond their briefs and not getting on with the work they were elected to carry out by their electorate.

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Originally Posted by richard s

The only way to save this planet is for the human race to disappear.

Off you go, then! Will it be cliff edge or Dignitas?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You just suck it all up, don't you, Mr K?

We have already established that both carbon and temperatures have been higher than they are now in the past. So how come it was not irreversible then and yet it is irreversible now?

Don't just repeat what the climate extremists are saying - think before you make your pronouncements.

Climate change occurs naturally in geological time, OB - fundamental changes occur over millions of years, oscillations within an overall climate pattern may occur on a scale of 10-100,000 years (recent ice ages are oscillations within an overall climate pattern, not wholesale climate change in themselves). The reason the scientific consensus is that the climate change we are now seeing is anthropogenic is that it is happening so fast.

It will naturally ebb and flow in geological time as it always has, but we know of no mechanism by which the human race could reverse in the next 100 years what it has done over the last 100. That's what K means by irreversible. *we* can't reverse it. The best we could hope for would be another ice age to occur naturally and take the edge off (before CAGW became a thing, a new ice age was the nightmare scenario climate scientists worried about, until they realised everything was getting warmer, not cooler).

A re-advance of the ice could conceivably begin within my lifetime but it is more likely not to occur for tens of thousands of years. I don't know about you, but I don't expect to be around by then. As far as everyone alive today is concerned, and all their descendants for thousands of generations, what we do, or fail to do, over the next 25 years, may cause climate change that is irreversible.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You just suck it all up, don't you, Mr K?

We have already established that both carbon and temperatures have been higher than they are now in the past. So how come it was not irreversible then and yet it is irreversible now?

Don't just repeat what the climate extremists are saying - think before you make your pronouncements.

If only you could do 'thinking' OB......

The current warming is at a much, much faster rate than ever seen before. It directly coincides with the industrial revolution and increased carbon emissions. Look to the evidence, not the self interested head in the sand profiteers/politicians. At a point in the very near future, it won't be possible to stop it. We may be past the point already, but it would be silly not to try and do something.

Don't just 'suck up' everything your tabloid tells you, or dismiss it because you don't like the types of people protesting. It will affect you/your family as well as them.

Originally Posted by Chris

A re-advance of the ice could conceivably begin within my lifetime but it is more likely not to occur for tens of thousands of years. I don't know about you, but I don't expect to be around by then. As far as everyone alive today is concerned, and all their descendants for thousands of generations, what we do, or fail to do, over the next 25 years, may cause climate change that is irreversible.

Also either of those scenarios could be quite a problem for human life. Ultimately the earth is, in time, gonna be fine. However the same cannot be said for the life on it. Hence concerns that we could have more extreme weather conditions and in some areas of the world an increasingly inhospitable environment causing mass migrations and instability.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Damien

Also either of those scenarios could be quite a problem for human life. Ultimately the earth is, in time, gonna be fine. However the same cannot be said for the life on it. Hence concerns that we could have more extreme weather conditions and in some areas of the world an increasingly inhospitable environment causing mass migrations and instability.

That is it to a T! All these eco warriors and other idiots causing disruption etc don't understand the earth will correct things over time and climate change is a threat to human life not the planet.

Quickest way to reduce carbon emissions? Another world war and cull the human herd.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

That is it to a T! All these eco warriors and other idiots causing disruption etc don't understand the earth will correct things over time and climate change is a threat to human life not the planet.

I'm sure they do know that, same as most people acknowledge the existence of global warming.

[heero_yuy]

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Quickest way to reduce carbon emissions? Another world war and cull the human herd.

A new black death. It'll be coming soon enough. Something like ebola with the transmissiveness of the flu.

[richard s]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Off you go, then! Will it be cliff edge or Dignitas?

After you Old Chap... gentlemen first.

[Jimmy-J]

Search YouTube for "George Carlin - Saving the Planet"

I'd embed it here, but it contains some bad language.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J

Search YouTube for "George Carlin - Saving the Planet"

I'd embed it here, but it contains some bad language.

Watched some of this. What a sad individual.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Watched some of this. What a sad individual.

Don't beat yourself up find the time to watch it all, you never know it might make you crack a smile.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Don't beat yourself up find the time to watch it all, you never know it might make you crack a smile.

What's your point here? Maybe you agree with him?

[papa smurf]

Meanwhile back at the [whatever the vegi term for ranch is

EU to demand veggie burgers are called ‘VEGGIE DISCS’ - ‘Insult to our intelligence!’
THE European Union is sticking its bureaucratic nose in it once again - this time it is hoping to ban veggie burgers and veggie sausages.


oh what an insult to the cabbage crunchers fighting global whatsitsname

The agricultural committee of the European Parliament has bizarre plans to block vegetarian and vegan food products bearing the names of meat-related terms and names “exclusively for edible parts of the animals”. This includes veggie burgers and veggie sausages, which have somehow managed to become confusing for EU legislators. Steaks, sausages, escalope and burgers are all set for protected status after the committee voted 80 percent in favour of the changes.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...-europe-brexit

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Meanwhile back at the [whatever the vegi term for ranch is

EU to demand veggie burgers are called ‘VEGGIE DISCS’ - ‘Insult to our intelligence!’
THE European Union is sticking its bureaucratic nose in it once again - this time it is hoping to ban veggie burgers and veggie sausages.


oh what an insult to the cabbage crunchers fighting global whatsitsname

The agricultural committee of the European Parliament has bizarre plans to block vegetarian and vegan food products bearing the names of meat-related terms and names “exclusively for edible parts of the animals”. This includes veggie burgers and veggie sausages, which have somehow managed to become confusing for EU legislators. Steaks, sausages, escalope and burgers are all set for protected status after the committee voted 80 percent in favour of the changes.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...-europe-brexit

and this relates to Climate Change how? This is not the EU bashing thread .. that is the other one

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by ianch99

and this relates to Climate Change how? This is not the EU bashing thread .. that is the other one

This food is the staple diet of the tree hugging climate change cult, bung another veggie tube on the barbie, every one is saving the planet.