Superhub R30 - Superhub R29 is no more.... - Page 27

Sephiroth · 25-09-2011, 16:17

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I am a VMdude. Check my sig, I have worked for VM for a long time. Since the NTL days.

Yeah - I got you and Hugh the wrong way round in my mind. So now I quoted two VM dudes - even better authority!

HuaweiHank · 25-09-2011, 17:55

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What an excellent first post from HuaweiHank!

Thank you ! The credit should go to BenMCR really as it was his insight on the WiFi certification that made me look further.

This has proven an interesting exercise with more information being confirmed by the Virginmedia people, who I suspect have also learned for that first time that the two units will not be "identical" and the Huawei appears to have a superior specification.

On that note I asked a more informed friend in the US about the additional functionality. She is familiar with Broadcomm, and advises that the additional functionality could come from Huawei using a newer chipset, or more likely Huawei are developing on the latest 5-5-5 codebase, while Netgear may be on an older version that does not support the additional functionality.

So it looks like the Huawei will support concurrent 2.4 and 5GHz modes ?

I cannot see any Huawei approvals for the 485 on The Certified Eurodocsis Devices List though.

BenMcr · 25-09-2011, 18:00

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Originally Posted by HuaweiHank

I cannot see any Huawei approvals for the 485 on The Certified Eurodocsis Devices List though.

The current Netgear Hubs aren't on there either nor is the standalone D3 modem, so it doesn't look like a full list

Peter_ · 25-09-2011, 18:07

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Originally Posted by HuaweiHank

This has proven an interesting exercise with more information being confirmed by the Virginmedia people, who I suspect have also learned for that first time that the two units will not be "identical" and the Huawei appears to have a superior specification.

The will still be no option to get the 485 instead of the 480 as you will just get whatever is on the shelf nothing more.

thenry · 25-09-2011, 18:15

@ Masque, I was reading a post on here about the adapters. why don't vm supply 30Mb customers with adapters?

BenMcr · 25-09-2011, 18:27

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Originally Posted by thenry

@ Masque, I was reading a post on here about the adapters. why don't vm supply 30Mb customers with adapters?

Because Wireless G that is most people's laptops is fine for 30Mbit

However Wireless 'N' is required for 50Mbit and 100Mbit, so to make sure that people can get the speeds the adapters are supplied

qasdfdsaq · 25-09-2011, 18:45

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Originally Posted by HuaweiHank

On that note I asked a more informed friend in the US about the additional functionality. She is familiar with Broadcomm, and advises that the additional functionality could come from Huawei using a newer chipset, or more likely Huawei are developing on the latest 5-5-5 codebase, while Netgear may be on an older version that does not support the additional functionality.

I wouldn't be surprised. The chipset in the "original" Superhub is ancient and deprecated (and has been for years).

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So it looks like the Huawei will support concurrent 2.4 and 5GHz modes ?

No. Certificate says it's dual-band selectable, which is the same as the old Superhub.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Because Wireless G that is most people's laptops is fine for 30Mbit

No it's not. The best devices won't go above 24mbps even under ideal conditions. Most average G gear tops out at 16-20mbps next to the router.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

However Wireless 'N' is required for 50Mbit and 100Mbit, so to make sure that people can get the speeds the adapters are supplied

There's no more requirement for 'N' at 50mbps than 30mbps. You won't get full speed without 'N' on either.

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Originally Posted by Masque

The will still be no option to get the 485 instead of the 480 as you will just get whatever is on the shelf nothing more.

You were still wrong on the identical features and identical performance part though.

Ignitionnet · 25-09-2011, 19:25

Who'da thunk that a guy who works as a 1st line tech and another who works in a completely different business unit in a non-related position wouldn't be totally informed as to the minutae of upcoming CPE.

People will start thinking that non-professional/executive employees don't know everything that goes on within a multi-billion dollar over 4,000,000 customer company at this rate.

**Hugh** · 25-09-2011, 19:59

Peter_ · 25-09-2011, 20:11

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

You were still wrong on the identical features and identical performance part though.

I know more about this device than you ever will though and strangely that is a 100% fact because I have access to our intranet.

Also be aware the will be no option of getting one device instead of the other.

jb66 · 25-09-2011, 20:14

I have the option

Peter_ · 25-09-2011, 20:26

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Originally Posted by jb66

I have the option

But you do not have the device.

thenry · 25-09-2011, 20:38

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Originally Posted by jb66

I have the option

of course you do but why be smug about it? your not giving the company any more of a good rep than its already getting. its a business, theres rules in place we get it but again!! could any vm employee tell us if or why the firmware isn't being upgraded as we speak? excuse us customers for being a little frustrated after reading comments on the community forum from staff members saying their going to take a little break before upgrading the firmware further. isn't that what their suppose to be doing to build a new bridge seeing as the existing bridge hasn't fallen? if the firmwares improved and the devices work to a standard where customers are happy you wouldn't have an issue with "i want that one"

BenMcr · 25-09-2011, 20:46

There is a big difference between updating the firmware to resolve any identified issues, and updating the firmware to include new features.

thenry · 25-09-2011, 20:50

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

There is a big difference between updating the firmware to resolve any identified issues, and updating the firmware to include new features.

Whats your point? issues were flagged from day 1 and took ages to rectify. What I'm saying is whats done is done now move forward by means of improving the firmware as a whole; improve features and add features.