Pandemic (Swine) Flu - Page 27

Pierre · 30-04-2009, 10:44

Are we all dead yet?

No, thought not.

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a smiling 5-year-old Mexican boy who tested positive for the deadly new strain of swine flu in this windswept valley surrounded by pig-breeding farms. "I feel good."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30468063/

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The woman confirmed with swine flu did not go to hospital and is being treated with anti-viral drugs at home, the BBC understands.

Speaking about the north London man with the virus, Dr Andrew Burnett, medical director at Barnet Primary Care Trust, said: "We can confirm that a 22-year-old man is being treated at home for mild flu-like symptoms and has tested positive for swine influenza.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8024780.stm

If all you conspiracy nuts out there want to theorise about dark forces why not theorise about how much money the makers of "Tamiflu" are reaping in from this????

Nugget · 30-04-2009, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Rob M

Ok, enough.

Time out.

Stand back, take a deep breath, count to 10 minutes.

Ooh, you swine

This is yet another emotive issue - there are those on the (for want of a better word) conspiracy side of the argument who will happily take in / believe the idea that this is a man-made 'weapon', developed by those with no feelings but malice towards the rest of us.

On the flipside, there are those who believe that, seeing as influenza has been proven to genetically mutate any number of times, that this was just an 'accident waiting to happen', particularly as mankinds desire for more of everything (in this case, products from pigs) results in more contact with the relevant animals, giving the virus more opportunity to mutate.

FWIW, I work with someone who came back from Mexico last week, and has absolutely no symptoms whatsoever - go figure

**Hugh** · 30-04-2009, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Are we all dead yet?

No, thought not.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30468063/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8024780.stm

If all you conspiracy nuts out there want to theorise about dark forces why not theorise about how much money the makers of "Tamiflu" are reaping in from this????

Already been mentioned, along with the Rumsfeld connection...

On the flip-side, the impact of this in Mexico alone is estimated at approx $50 million per day in lost business, due to shops etc being shut.

chaos23 · 30-04-2009, 11:35

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Originally Posted by Russ B

An ability I've picked up from various CF members.

I see absolutely nothing in assuming it's any sort of conspiracy. If I went in to a packed cinema and shouted 'fire' then I could end up prosecuted for a Public order offence.

But stirrers can go on websites, newspapers, tv, radio etc do the same about a global conspiracy and get away with it.

But stirrers can go on websites, newspapers, tv, radio etc do the same about a global conspiracy and get away with it

What exactly is it that your worried about. People are intelligent enough to work out for themselves what and what not to believe. Its a free society we live in where we allow free speech. Do you have a problem with that Heinrich?

Russ · 30-04-2009, 11:39

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Originally Posted by chaos23

What exactly is it that your worried about.

I'm not worried about anything - and especially not about the "New World Order" (dun dun duuuuuuh) try to off us all.

Not once have I tried (or wanted) to silence you. But I will challenge you with anything you post that I disagree with. That's how discussion forums work.

chaos23 · 30-04-2009, 11:40

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Originally Posted by Russ B

I'm not worried about anything - and especially not about the "New World Order" (dun dun duuuuuuh) try to off us all.

Not once have I tried (or wanted) to silence you. But I will challenge you with anything you post that I disagree with. That's how discussion forums work.

There is challenging and then there is harrassing. You and some of your buddies on here are bordering on harrassment.

30-04-2009, 11:45

I have no problem with free speech i do have a problem with people that shout out theories represent them as fact and when challenged to priovide some facts provide nothing and instead attack other members remind some of anyone.

Sir John Luke · 30-04-2009, 11:46

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Paranoia is a clinical symptom of a lot of mild mental disorders some of your stirrers may actually be ill

That struck me as well, but I thought I'd better not post it, even though it is a serious point.

Pierre · 30-04-2009, 11:48

I tell you, I wonder how some people find the will to get out of bed in the morning.

jamiefrost · 30-04-2009, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Gary L

But Mexico is a neutral place. ideal for testing the spread and its affects.

The lethality of a virus / biological weapon has an effect of the transmission and spread. If the virus is too virulent people are too ill to quickly and unable to spread the virus.

It all comes down to how long a person is a carrier for spreading the virus before the become too ill. So spreading a weaker version of the virus may not have the same spread pattern as a stronger one.

If you die within one hour of catching the virus means is difficult for the virus to spread.

Also the baseline health and medcial care have a great effect of leathality. Just beacuse it spreads quickly and kills a lot of people in an a group of malnourished poorlry cared for group does not mean the same will happen elsewhere.

This bio wepaon thing seems to be really complicated, too deadly and it doesn't get chance to spread.

JJ

Russ · 30-04-2009, 11:49

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Originally Posted by chaos23

There is challenging and then there is harrassing. You and some of your buddies on here are bordering on harrassment.

Riiiight...

Feel free to use the 'report post' feature if you're feeling harassed at any time.

Gary L · 30-04-2009, 11:51

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Riiiight...

Feel free to use the 'report post' feature if you're feeling harassed at any time.

I did that once. the person I reported dealt with the report

superbiatch · 30-04-2009, 11:59

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Originally Posted by Nugget

FWIW, I work with someone who came back from Mexico last week, and has absolutely no symptoms whatsoever - go figure

And for what its worth (I've had this confirmed by one of our pharmacists), the virus can lie dormant for 14 days, so he may not be showing symptoms 'yet'.

Its more than my job is worth to go into too much detail, but i'm now more worried than I was initially.

Gary L · 30-04-2009, 12:04

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Originally Posted by superbiatch

And for what its worth (I've had this confirmed by one of our pharmacists), the virus can lie dormant for 14 days, so he may not be showing symptoms 'yet'.

Its more than my job is worth to go into too much detail, but i'm now more worried than I was initially.

If you're ticklish, I can get the info out of you

Obama was in Mexico during the outbreak, they said something about ‘The incubation period is 24 to 48 hours and we have been back from Mexico for nine days now. The doctors say he was not at risk.’

That was reported 2 days ago, so he's on the 14th day of dormancy now.

chaos23 · 30-04-2009, 12:14

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

I have no problem with free speech i do have a problem with people that shout out theories represent them as fact and when challenged to priovide some facts provide nothing and instead attack other members remind some of anyone.

If you dont like my angle on things then please dont reply with sarcastic remarks.

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Riiiight...

Feel free to use the 'report post' feature if you're feeling harassed at any time.

I did. I found myself reporting every other post with no action being taken.