Multiculturalism is dangerous

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

So that’s true of forty people subset you’re then extrapolating to cover the whole number ?

So, by your logic a subset of people who are racist, xenophobic bigots hold the same opinion as you, I can therefore extrapolate, and that makes you the same ?

Most, if not all. First, thje 40 try the Christianity wheeze, then another 40, then the rest. Are you blind? Or just taking me on for the fun of it (you're welcome)?

As for your second paragraph, ridiculous.

[Stephen]

So your opinion that all imigrants are thieves liars and cheats is factually correct based on 40 converting to Christianity. But a different option that says that if some people are racist, xenophobic bigots then everyone must be, is silly?

Ok

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Most, if not all. First, thje 40 try the Christianity wheeze, then another 40, then the rest. Are you blind? Or just taking me on for the fun of it (you're welcome)?

As for your second paragraph, ridiculous.

So, you’re allowed to make sweeping generalisations and group people based on a small data sample? But I’m not. Is that correct ?

And to help your answer you don’t need to go into your usual diatribe. A very simple yes or no will suffice.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Stephen

So your opinion that all imigrants are thieves liars and cheats is factually correct based on 40 converting to Christianity. But a different option that says that if some people are racist, xenophobic bigots then everyone must be, is silly?

Ok

Don't be deliberately silly. You know exactly what I'm saying about the dangers of undocumented boat migrants, who have deliberately disposed of their documents and are obviously resorting to any wheeze to stay here.

What's wrong with asylum in the EU if they're genuine? They are liars, cheats and fakes. You, some others on the forum, and the Arch Kent of Cant foolishly think otherwise.

I'll ask you this: Shouldn't the UK protect its borders?

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Don't be deliberately silly. You know exactly what I'm saying about the dangers of undocumented boat migrants, who have deliberately disposed of their documents and are obviously resorting to any wheeze to stay here.

What's wrong with asylum in the EU if they're genuine? They are liars, cheats and fakes. You, some others on the forum, and the Arch Kent of Cant foolishly think otherwise.

I'll ask you this: Shouldn't the UK protect its borders?

Again you are just making sweeping generalisations based on a small number. There is no evidence or confirmation that any or all of then have 'dumped' there passports or legal documentation. Many paid a fortune to try and escape where they were. That should inform you they were that desperate to leave their own country. You don't go to those lengths just to be freeloaders or thieves.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Don't be deliberately silly. You know exactly what I'm saying about the dangers of undocumented boat migrants, who have deliberately disposed of their documents and are obviously resorting to any wheeze to stay here.

What's wrong with asylum in the EU if they're genuine? They are liars, cheats and fakes. You, some others on the forum, and the Arch Kent of Cant foolishly think otherwise.

I'll ask you this: Shouldn't the UK protect its borders?

My little englander, the stench of desperation emanating from you is like a 12yr old discovering lynx Africa for the first time.

Your point regarding the seeking of asylum in the EU has already been answered yet you’ve chosen to ignore it.

[Sephiroth]

Whatever - to both of you. No point in continuing this ping pong.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Whatever - to both of you. No point in continuing this ping pong.

Perhaps you would like to respond to your question I answered regarding why people don’t just choose to settle in Europe ? Or, perhaps you could answer the question I asked which required a very simple yes or no answer

Both of which provide ample opportunities to continue the discussion?

[Sephiroth]

Can't be bothered. You're blind to the obvious even if there are a minority of migrants who have relatives here. But those exceptions are still not entitled to be here in the UK and they are gaming the system. If you don't see that, then maybe you can answer a question: how many is enough?l

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Can't be bothered. You're blind to the obvious even if there are a minority of migrants who have relatives here. But those exceptions are still not entitled to be here in the UK and they are gaming the system. If you don't see that, then maybe you can answer a question: how many is enough?l

They’re entitled to be here if the home office decides they are and the home office agrees that people are entitled to be here in approx seventy odd percent (if iirc) of cases

I’ll be honest I don’t know ‘how many is enough’ I don’t have a number,

I do believe two things

1. You’re afraid to answer the questions put to you and therefore you’re deflecting.

2. Your idea of controlled migration is 0 people arriving because they should go somewhere else first

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Can't be bothered. You're blind to the obvious even if there are a minority of migrants who have relatives here. But those exceptions are still not entitled to be here in the UK and they are gaming the system. If you don't see that, then maybe you can answer a question: how many is enough?l

They are entitled to be here if they are genuine asylum seekers, there is no obligation to claim asylum in the first safe country the arrive in

[tweetiepooh]

Not all Muslim's converting to Christianity will be faking it. The fastest growing Christian church is Iran, and Afghanistan coming second. Other reports give different figures but the Christian faith is growing in nations where to be a Christian is definitely not an advantage and so to claim to have converted is not something done lightly.
So, while there maybe some claiming to convert to ease their application to immigrate not all will do so, and for some even to claim the change could lead to loss of friendships and community and likely greater trouble for family remaining "at home".

[Sephiroth]

The clue is the sudden conversion to Christianity here, in the UK whilst in detention as an illegal immigrant. It's an obvious wheeze to any reasonable person.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The clue is the sudden conversion to Christianity here, in the UK whilst in detention as an illegal immigrant. It's an obvious wheeze to any reasonable person.

That's not a clue at all. It just you thinking it is.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

and Afghanistan coming second.

Coupled with a decline in hat shops in those areas.