Football Season 2012/2013 - Page 267

adzii_nufc · 08-01-2013, 17:42

I agree with the above but I also think Ronaldo is better than Messi which I've said many times before

Ronaldo has unbelievable pace for a guy of his height. His skill is unmatched, Messi can dribble but Ronaldo is just something else. Ronaldo is a proven player in the fastest and greatest league in the world (yes that old argument again, simply put it's true) Messi however is playing for arguably the greatest 11 clubwise we've ever seen.

Ronaldo's freekick's are sensational. Ronaldo is a complete natural talent, he was born to play this game.

Some can argue Messi wasn't, Messi would never have played professional football without the use of steroids, has this improved his level? who knows.

colin25 · 08-01-2013, 18:09

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Ronaldo's freekick's are sensational. Ronaldo is a complete natural talent, he was born to play this game.

Some can argue Messi wasn't, Messi would never have played professional football without the use of steroids, has this improved his level? who knows.

I thought the drugs was a health issue, not a design to improve performance.

Same thing would be someone who had heart problems taking a drug, and still being able to play.

If he took a shot for meningitis, or polio, is that any different?

he wasn't abusing a drug..he was prescibed it due to deficiency in bone density etc

Shadow Demon UK · 08-01-2013, 18:36

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Apart from the year he won it...

adzii_nufc · 08-01-2013, 19:11

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Originally Posted by colin25

I thought the drugs was a health issue, not a design to improve performance.

Same thing would be someone who had heart problems taking a drug, and still being able to play.

If he took a shot for meningitis, or polio, is that any different?

he wasn't abusing a drug..he was prescibed it due to deficiency in bone density etc

I can't recall suggesting he abused drugs or claiming they were to improve performance, however there is also nothing to suggest they do or don't improve his performance. The point also still remains, without the funding of Barcelona for the use of steroids, Lionel Messi would never have played Football.

Note the effects of the steroids used to treat Lionel Messi.

The first three ‘benefits’ to HGH; “Increases Energy and Endurance, Improves Sports Performance and Recovery, Increases Bone Density and Reduces Osteoporosis”. In short, run faster, play better, have stronger bones. Bold being the reason for them in the Messi case but no comments on the other benefits of it.

colin25 · 08-01-2013, 19:15

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I can't recall suggesting he abused drugs or claiming they were to improve performance, however there is also nothing to suggest they do or don't improve his performance. The point also still remains, without the funding of Barcelona for the use of steroids, Lionel Messi would never have played Football.

I can't say that. Don't know enough about it.

But could that be said about other stars, if you looked hard enough in their lives.

A teacher guided a star, someone helped with fees etc

adzii_nufc · 08-01-2013, 19:17

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I can't say that. Don't know enough about it.

But could that be said about other stars, if you looked hard enough in their lives.

A teacher guided a star, someone helped with fees etc

Naturally, Barcelona spotted potential and they hit a gold mine.

thenry · 08-01-2013, 19:26

i wish i was on HGH

sherer · 08-01-2013, 19:36

don't try it, there's plenty of pics on the net of body builders and others who have bought this off dodghy web sites trying to emulate a sportsmen and ended up with elongated body parts or worse.

Cobbydaler · 08-01-2013, 19:39

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i wish i was on HGH

Why? Are you 4' 6"?

thenry · 08-01-2013, 19:43

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don't try it, there's plenty of pics on the net of body builders and others who have bought this off dodghy web sites trying to emulate a sportsmen and ended up with elongated body parts or worse.

na i wouldnt bother with the black market. the doc would be the only option but even then yeah theres the risk of things going very wrong.

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Why? Are you 4' 6"?

no but am shorter than Messi

denphone · 08-01-2013, 19:48

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i wish i was on HGH

That would be very unwise my good friend.

colin25 · 08-01-2013, 19:53

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na i wouldnt bother with the black market. the doc would be the only option but even then yeah theres the risk of things going very wrong.

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no but am shorter than Messi

But more to the point, what sort of performance are you trying to enhance? there are other methods

**Damien** · 08-01-2013, 20:00

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Ronaldo has unbelievable pace for a guy of his height. His skill is unmatched, Messi can dribble but Ronaldo is just something else. Ronaldo is a proven player in the fastest and greatest league in the world (yes that old argument again, simply put it's true) Messi however is playing for arguably the greatest 11 clubwise we've ever seen..

Messi has proven it in the Champions League more than enough. That includes teams from the 'greatest league in the world too'.

Arthurgray50@blu · 08-01-2013, 20:02

I think the palyer who should be named footballer of the year at this stage is the cheating Suerez of Liverpool for the deliberate handball he did in the FA Cup.

He should be named Maradona 2, and Liverpool should be ashamed of themself for standing up for him.

The FA should be watching the video of the game and order an immediate replay.

thenry · 08-01-2013, 20:06

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But more to the point, what sort of performance are you trying to enhance? there are other methods

very true. being in a stress free environment would be a good start.

i wouldnt personally take anything anyway from Messi for being on HGH during childhood. clubs have all sorts of vits,meds. not saying illegal just saying enhancements are going on today.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I think the palyer who should be named footballer of the year at this stage is the cheating Suerez of Liverpool for the deliberate handball he did in the FA Cup.

He should be named Maradona 2, and Liverpool should be ashamed of themself for standing up for him.

The FA should be watching the video of the game and order an immediate replay.

Suarez did win Arthur

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Luis Suarez won the Fellon d'Floor award. It was a close call between him, Bale, Young and Gervinho but hey ho Suarez won the drama award.