30-03-2022, 14:07
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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These were Theresa Mays red lines and their implications on the relationship going forward with the EU;
They seem pretty 'Brexity' to me so I am curious how she tried to sabotage Brexit. What should the Johnson administration have changed from Theresa Mays approach?
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I can't decipher that diagram - but no matter.
The cardinal mistake that led to all the Parliamentary nonsense was accepting the EU's terms for negotiation: Withdrawal Agreement first then trade. She buckled.
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30-03-2022, 23:02
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Really, I thought they did say just that, the day we leave we hold all the cards, easiest deal ever done, sorted out in an afternoon etc
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That was about the withdrawal agreement, wasn’t it? Certainly not about implementation.
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31-03-2022, 00:32
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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That was about the withdrawal agreement, wasn’t it? Certainly not about implementation.
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Does it really matter any more, no one will be held accountable for the things they said or did so what's the point
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31-03-2022, 07:46
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Does it really matter any more, no one will be held accountable for the things they said or did so what's the point
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No, it doesn't matter at all! You raised it, not me. .
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31-03-2022, 14:42
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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That was about the withdrawal agreement, wasn’t it? Certainly not about implementation.
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It's a long time ago but for the avoidance of misunderstanding, they were about the trade deal not the WA.
I guess only history will hold the players responsible.
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31-03-2022, 15:10
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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No, it doesn't matter at all! You raised it, not me. .
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And I shall keep on reminding people of what was said and the promises that were made and I have no doubt that for some bizarre reason you'll attempt to excuse their shithousery
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31-03-2022, 15:46
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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And I shall keep on reminding people of what was said and the promises that were made and I have no doubt that for some bizarre reason you'll attempt to excuse their shithousery
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If you were fool enough to fall for any promises made by a politician - from either side - then I guess nobody can help you . . . carry on moaning though, because it's apparently good to release that pent up anger and disillusionment
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31-03-2022, 15:59
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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If you were fool enough to fall for any promises made by a politician - from either side - then I guess nobody can help you . . . carry on moaning though, because it's apparently good to release that pent up anger and disillusionment
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Broken promises are one thing, outright lies however are much better at getting the anger and disillusionment to the surface. Just off for my afternoon Vodka (made in Poland of course) and some Woodbines.
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31-03-2022, 16:44
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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And I shall keep on reminding people of what was said and the promises that were made and I have no doubt that for some bizarre reason you'll attempt to excuse their shithousery
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Even though, as you said, it doesn’t matter?
Well if it does matter after all, I would point out again that the statements you were referring to were about the agreement itself, not it’s implementation.
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31-03-2022, 19:53
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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If you were fool enough to fall for any promises made by a politician - from either side - then I guess nobody can help you . . . carry on moaning though, because it's apparently good to release that pent up anger and disillusionment
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What a cop out, they're all at it so that makes it all right, it's because of attitudes like that things will never change and the infantilisation of British politics will continue, what a pity, never had you down as part of the problem but guess I just thought to highly of you, that was my foolish mistake
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Even though, as you said, it doesn’t matter?
Well if it does matter after all, I would point out again that the statements you were referring to were about the agreement itself, not it’s implementation.
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It doesn't matter because they won't be held to account but that doesn't mean I'll shut up about it, might be time for you to go back on ignore, your simpering sycophantic ways are mildly annoying
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31-03-2022, 20:11
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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What a cop out, they're all at it so that makes it all right, it's because of attitudes like that things will never change and the infantilisation of British politics will continue, what a pity, never had you down as part of the problem but guess I just thought to highly of you, that was my foolish mistake
It doesn't matter because they won't be held to account but that doesn't mean I'll shut up about it, might be time for you to go back on ignore, your simpering sycophantic ways are mildly annoying
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"mildly annoying" maybe - but highly entertaining.
And sometimes, as with COVID, OB is substantially right.
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31-03-2022, 20:36
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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If you were fool enough to fall for any promises made by a politician - from either side - then I guess nobody can help you . . . carry on moaning though, because it's apparently good to release that pent up anger and disillusionment
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31-03-2022, 20:36
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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It doesn't matter because they won't be held to account but that doesn't mean I'll shut up about it, might be time for you to go back on ignore, your simpering sycophantic ways are mildly annoying
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I’m not trying to ‘shut you up’, mate, I’m just making sure that you attribute these comments correctly.
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31-03-2022, 22:35
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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"mildly annoying" maybe - but highly entertaining.
And sometimes, as with COVID, OB is substantially right.
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Yes, it is. The difference being that currently there is no way we can treat it, because it is new. That was the government's concern, and that of governments around the world. The sudden heavy demand for hospital services, concentrated over a few short weeks, was the problem.
There is no doubt that the emergency measures have reduced numbers. I didn't claim that this was not the case. What I am saying is that so far at least, the number of recorded deaths is nowhere near those recorded for seasonal flu. Of course, they are still going up, but we appear to be reaching the peak now. It's a stretch to believe the final figure will be five times what we have now. Double, sure, maybe three times. But five times? Yeah, right!
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On the date of the above post, (13th April 2020), there had been 16,393 COVID deaths in the U.K. - the most recent figures for U.K. COVID deaths is 165, 361…
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31-03-2022, 22:53
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On the date of the above post, (13th April 2020), there had been 16,393 COVID deaths in the U.K….
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FLU DEATHS - and that's with vaccines
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...000/2015-11-25
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Between December 2014 and March 2015 there were 44,000 excess winter deaths, 2.5 times higher than the record low of the previous winter, and the highest number since the winter of 1999/2000 when flu levels were very high.
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