Muslims to march in London

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by SMG

I see Muslims marching, ranting, chanting, shouting death threats, & I don't want to see it anymore. I don't want to keep hearing about it, & I don't want to hear any more about Islam. I just want to live in peace. So my personal message is simple, whoever you are, black, white, or somewhere in between. Whatever your religion, Christian, Muslim etc, keep it to yourself, stop inflicting it on others, stop inciting conflict & leading my country into civil war.

Welcome to Democracy.

Where all peoples have a say.


Remember also though, these marches are peaceful until the extremist groups start a riot.

Its happened with the Ravers, The poll tax demo's, etc etc


Again thats a very very racist view to say that other races/religions are causing civil wars? I mean jeez louise, very very bold statement.

Like I said before, groups like your anarchists and extreme wing groups are causing this, which is forcing those people to march in protest so something can be done about them.

Has it worked?

Have they stopped the BNP, have they stopped these Nazi Right Wing Groups? Nope, nothing has been done, and they continue to harrass and cause havoc.

As a nation, do we not owe it to our friends who come to live and make a life here to make their lives peaceful and free from prejudice.

Or do you wish them to be singled out, and used for the propoganda machines out there.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by DABhand

Neither did most of the muslims who did or did not march on that day. You cant have your cake and eat it too btw. Which brings us to...



Not all muslims are terrorists, the march wasnt about pro terrorism either, it was about other issues, mainly how others perceive them to be terrorists.

So if you wish to perceive them as them being so, then I can perceive you as an english subject being a slaver, football holligan, lager lout, unemployable, and lots more. Not fair huh to be named all those.

Whats good for the goose...

What are you on about? I have already admitted I misunderstood your statement about the marchers (poor syntax, the lateness of the hour etc....) but you are now completely backpedalling from your statement about all of us being responsible for slavery etc. You said in #352:

Hatred among races has gone way back, and do remember it was the English who were the slavers, who where taking blacks to America, who were taking over other minority countries. So who is the agressor you may ask. Looking into your country's history will reveal that.

Now you are trying to wriggle out of that statement.....

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

but you are now completely backpedalling from your statement about all of us being responsible for slavery etc.

No, he said the English were responsible - us Taffs, Scots and Paddies must be the good guys

Originally Posted by Russ B

No, he said the English were responsible - us Taffs, Scots and Paddies must be the good guys

At last - something that isn't our fault -Yay!

I see Muslims marching, ranting, chanting, shouting death threats, & I don't want to see it anymore. I don't want to keep hearing about it, & I don't want to hear any more about Islam. I just want to live in peace. So my personal message is simple, whoever you are, black, white, or somewhere in between. Whatever your religion, Christian, Muslim etc, keep it to yourself, stop inflicting it on others, stop inciting conflict & leading my country into civil war.

We are not heading for civil war, also I would like to see a lot of things stop but thats not the way the world rocks. All you can do in control the world around you to a small extent. You can feel that when you see a muslim being a bit of a pillock to ignore it and not feel it as representive of all muslims. You dont presume that everytime you see a black person talking they represent black people.

I was watching Brass Eye the other day, the program is over 10 years old. Yet ironically it feels modern. The issues people complain about are the same. Decline, Crime, Drugs, Immigration, Other religions. All the same issues that people on here get fired up about.

[Mr Angry]

"Nonce sense" - Genius!!

[SMG]

Dabhand.

In reply to various sections of your last 3 posts M8.

You tell me that I have a very very racist view. Well, I thought about an answer, but I can only say, if thats what you think, OK. However, my posts are not racist, you will find I included everyone from black to white, and all religions. So, I think you must be misunderstanding me.

I did not say that other races/religions are causing civil wars. Although this statement is historically true, differences in race/religion/culture have been the cause of not only civil war, but behind most wars that have ever been fought since time began. I actually said, "leading my country into civil war".

You say "As a nation, do we not owe it to our friends who come to live & make a life here to make their lives peaceful & free from prejudice". To a certain extent, yes, but I also expect immigrants & the people we save from tyranny & death to be grateful for our generosity, to ease themselves into our society, to settle in without making a fuss, to learn & respect our culture, & at the very least, learn the language & pledge allegiance to GB. Not to act like ranting, chanting, lunatics, threatening to kill the very people who are protecting them.

Your a Scotsman. You wish to remain a Scotsman. Fine, I want to remain an Englishman. Unfortunately, Its neither your choice nor mine. Government has decided that we are British. First, second & last. End of story.

Damien.

You say "We are not heading for civil war". I hope your right. However, I have come to learn that statements have very little meaning in reality. Perhaps you have heard the speech by Ex Prime Minister Nevil Chamberlain, on the 28th September, 1938. He returned from Munich after meeting with a guy called Adolf Hitler, & negotiating a peace agreement for Europe. As he walked down the steps of his aircraft, he held up his hand & said "I have in my hand, a piece of paper, signed by Herr Hitler". "Peace in our time". What an epitaph. What a mistakatomakea. WW2 broke out shortly after. But, I also respect your opinion.

What is the relevance of Chamberlain agreeing with Hitler to let him invade the Sudetenland got to do with today?

The current British Prime Minister hasn't agreed to let a foreign power invade another country recently.................... oh, right-o.

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by SMG

... but I also expect immigrants & the people we save from tyranny & death to be grateful for our generosity, ....

Oh for goodness sake!

Grateful for our generosity? The vast majority of immigrants work very hard and pay their taxes. They follow the rules and have the right to live here. They are not "guests sleeping in the spare bedroom", they are "tenants paying the rent".

[Locky]

Originally Posted by TheNorm

Oh for goodness sake!

Grateful for our generosity? The vast majority of immigrants work very hard and pay their taxes. They follow the rules and have the right to live here. They are not "guests sleeping in the spare bedroom", they are "tenants paying the rent".

wrong ! the vast majority do NOT work hard they leech, look at all this gun crime in manchester and london, who exactly is commiting them ? i dont even need to say u alredy know

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Originally Posted by DABhand

Welcome to Democracy.
Have they stopped the BNP, have they stopped these Nazi Right Wing Groups? Nope, nothing has been done, and they continue to harrass and cause havoc.

the bnp dont need stopping they need VOTES they are trying to keep england ENGLISH and free from all this well u know what.. andthye dont harrass and they dont cause havoc do they, nope.

Originally Posted by Locky

wrong ! the vast majority do NOT work hard they leech, look at all this gun crime in manchester and london, who exactly is commiting them ? i dont even need to say u alredy know

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the bnp dont need stopping they need VOTES they are trying to keep england ENGLISH and free from all this well u know what.. andthye dont harrass and they dont cause havoc do they, nope.

Thank you for representing the BNP in a true light.

[Locky]

Originally Posted by timewarrior2001

Britian is being FORCED to be mulitcultural and its breaking down at just about every opportunity.
Muslims can publically call for the Death of a race yet non muslims are arrested for inciting racial hatred for doing the same thing????? Is that unbiased, I think not. Is it fair? I think not. Is it multucultural? I think not, it benefits those of other races over our own race, there should be NO difference in the way th elaw treats anyone. FULL STOP. I should not be given preferential treatment because of the colour of my skin, my religion, my sexual orientation or my gender. FULL STOP.

But **** happens, and it goes to show that a proportion of "muslims" living here want to kill us. Why should I tolerate that? why should I not walk the streets calling for the murder of muslims? Because although no more illegal, because I would be arrested and because more poeple would find it distastefull and would be branding me a racist quicker than those muslims doing the same thing.

EXACTLY YOU SHOLD BE A POLITICIAN

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Thank you for representing the BNP in a true light.

no problem, i just hope more people do the same.. the bnp are NOT sucm but the people thye despise and oppose ARE

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Locky

wrong ! the vast majority do NOT work hard they leech, look at all this gun crime in manchester and london, who exactly is commiting them ? i dont even need to say u alredy know

Sorry, exactly how do they leech?
Pray do tell.
Lets hear it.
What's that? Free housing? Nope immigrants don't get that, asylum seekers do, but sorry, if you don't think that someone seeking asylum should be sheltered by Britain, then I'd prefer it if you didn't call yourself British or English, it would be too much of an insult to decent Brits who believe in doing the right thing.
Dole money? Oh hang on, only EU citizens can get that after working for 6 months and at the rate they'd get in their home country, so not really worth coming all this way to get the same as they could get at home if they wanted the dole. Immigrants from non-EU countries can't.
Asylum seekers aren't allowed to work, so they're given reduced benefits in order to feed themselves, again if you think we shouldn't help people in need then please, don't call yourself a member of this great nation!

Originally Posted by Locky

the bnp dont need stopping they need VOTES they are trying to keep england ENGLISH and free from all this well u know what.. andthye dont harrass and they dont cause havoc do they, nope.

Perhaps you've not seen the rap sheets of several BNP members.
Perhaps you aren't aware of the human excriment one used against neighbours because they weren't white.
Perhaps you're unaware that one member promised to vote against reduction in bus services for OAPs then promptly voted for it.
Perhaps you're unaware of the member who wasn't intelligent to understand what was being discussed in council.

The BNP claiming to be British is an insult.
The BNP claiming to be a viable political party is a joke.

[Locky]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Sorry, exactly how do they leech?
Pray do tell.
Lets hear it.
What's that? Free housing? Nope immigrants don't get that, asylum seekers do, but sorry, if you don't think that someone seeking asylum should be sheltered by Britain, then I'd prefer it if you didn't call yourself British or English, it would be too much of an insult to decent Brits who believe in doing the right thing.
Dole money? Oh hang on, only EU citizens can get that after working for 6 months and at the rate they'd get in their home country, so not really worth coming all this way to get the same as they could get at home if they wanted the dole. Immigrants from non-EU countries can't.
Asylum seekers aren't allowed to work, so they're given reduced benefits in order to feed themselves, again if you think we shouldn't help people in need then please, don't call yourself a member of this great nation!




Perhaps you've not seen the rap sheets of several BNP members.
Perhaps you aren't aware of the human excriment one used against neighbours because they weren't white.
Perhaps you're unaware that one member promised to vote against reduction in bus services for OAPs then promptly voted for it.
Perhaps you're unaware of the member who wasn't intelligent to understand what was being discussed in council.

The BNP claiming to be British is an insult.
The BNP claiming to be a viable political party is a joke.

as long as they do sumthing about the err "minorities" going out of control, i realy cudnt care what they do

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Locky

as long as they do sumthing about the err "minorities" going out of control, i realy cudnt care what they do

What minorities going out of control?

You mean the tiny group who called for beheddings and have been arrested and chaged and found guilty?
Sounds like control to me.


You really don't care what politicians are like as long as they do a good job of making non-whites (or do you consider non-whites who were born here as not members of a minority?) know they are second class citizens?