[Update] The Royal Mail strike thread - Page 26

**Maggy** · 22-10-2009, 16:35

Well I don't think everyone was on strike today.

The Hitman · 22-10-2009, 18:50

I have a sign on my front door saying. "All scab mail is refused." I also have blocked my letterbox as well.

v0id · 22-10-2009, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

My mail was delivered by my regular postman. I didn't get a chance to quiz him on why.

Delivery staff go on strike tomorrow. Except those who deliver Special Delivery, tracked mail, or Parcelforce ....according to 'ole auntie beeb

Hom3r · 22-10-2009, 19:19

I order a DVD from play.com which was despatched on Tuesday, it arrived this morning but not in a red RM / PF van.

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This strike will affect all companies large and small. On another thread people have cancelled a order on line and bought froma high street shop.

If everybody did this how much would companies like Play & amazon lose?

alferret · 22-10-2009, 19:35

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Originally Posted by bjorkiii

Its a well known that this is all the fault of the conservatives policies ever since that cow thatcher stopped school milk its all gone wrong , only thing conservative governments are good for is causing community discord.

LOL let me pick myself up off the floor. Who's in power at the moment? How long have they been in power? How is it the fault of a party that hasnt been in power for how long?

webcrawler2050 · 23-10-2009, 00:40

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Bus...2C_Sky_Sources

"Postal Workers' Union Announces New Strike"

I personally think this is just getting silly now - these workers, should be getting their backsides in gear and stop moaning. So their pay isnt fantastic, but lets be fair, it's not a very "skilled" job sorting mail, really is it? Driving a lorry, again, not very "hard" I think, something needs to be done here. I'm sorry but the postal service is a complete and utter mess. It's about time, the workers, stepped up to the plate. There used to be a time, when mail would come at 8:30 now - lucky, if you get it before 5PM. This is stupid and i'm getting more and more angry as it's affecting everyone everywhere. Simple answer.. Sack the lot of them. There are plenty and plenty of People who are on JSA etc, who would kill to have a job, infact there are plenty of people, who in this current market would kill for a job. So I put it to you RM workers, that are reading, can you do your job you are paid and contracted for without this stupid-childish striking, lets be fair, it's pretty damm selfish of you all to strike around this time of the year. I mean, c'mon!

Pierre · 23-10-2009, 09:01

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Originally Posted by alferret

LOL let me pick myself up off the floor. Who's in power at the moment? How long have they been in power? How is it the fault of a party that hasnt been in power for how long?

I believe that was said with tongue firmly planted in cheek

**Chris** · 23-10-2009, 10:12

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Originally Posted by The Hitman

I have a sign on my front door saying. "All scab mail is refused." I also have blocked my letterbox as well.

Didn't you know that secondary action is illegal? You can't picket your letterbox unless you're in the CWU.

webcrawler2050 · 23-10-2009, 10:39

I've just had post today and I was chatting to the old lady who wasn't the regular - she was very apologetic and a helpfull old lady!

ZrByte · 23-10-2009, 11:27

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Bus...2C_Sky_Sources

"Postal Workers' Union Announces New Strike"

I personally think this is just getting silly now - these workers, should be getting their backsides in gear and stop moaning. So their pay isnt fantastic, but lets be fair, it's not a very "skilled" job sorting mail, really is it? Driving a lorry, again, not very "hard" I think, something needs to be done here. I'm sorry but the postal service is a complete and utter mess. It's about time, the workers, stepped up to the plate. There used to be a time, when mail would come at 8:30 now - lucky, if you get it before 5PM. This is stupid and i'm getting more and more angry as it's affecting everyone everywhere. Simple answer.. Sack the lot of them. There are plenty and plenty of People who are on JSA etc, who would kill to have a job, infact there are plenty of people, who in this current market would kill for a job. So I put it to you RM workers, that are reading, can you do your job you are paid and contracted for without this stupid-childish striking, lets be fair, it's pretty damm selfish of you all to strike around this time of the year. I mean, c'mon!

The strike IS About doing the job we are contacted to do, its also about not doing the job the person who used to work adjacent to you used to do for no extra pay because he was made redundant because his job supposedly doesn't exist any more.
The last set of strikes in 07 where about pay rates etc, this time it really isnt. Though pay could be seen as an issue because we are being forced to take on extra duties for no extra pay its still not about rates.
And I dare you to say that bit about Lorry driving to a drivers face and walk away without at least a verbal battering.

ZrByte · 23-10-2009, 12:06

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

So it's really a good old fashioned demarkation dispute? Face it if parts of your existing job are being mechanised it is reasonable, is it not, to ask you to do some other work?

As an electronics engineer (I'm now a consultant) my job had changed markedly over the years from just doing the design and sketching it out for a draughtsman to re-draw. With computers we were expected to enter the schematics directly, update the CAD libraries, write formal documentation even layout sections of the PCBs. There was a time when the number of draughtsmen (women as well) outnumbered the engineers by two to one. These days you'd be hard pushed to find even one full time. Yet the pay for an engineer hasn't really changed despite doing many other peoples work.

No, you misunderstand me. My existing job hadn't changed, neither had the other person I mentioned in my example above, I don't do less than I did before, if anything I have already gained other duties which make my existing work take at least 30 mins longer. RM management make him take a redundancy claiming his job doesn't exist any more then try and make me take on his work aswel as my own for the same pay I am on now.

Pierre · 23-10-2009, 12:25

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Originally Posted by ZrByte

RM management make him take a redundancy claiming his job doesn't exist any more then try and make me take on his work aswel as my own for the same pay I am on now.

Welcome to the private sector and the real world.

ZrByte · 23-10-2009, 12:35

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Welcome to the private sector and the real world.

Don't patronise me and just because its common place that doesn't make it right.

webcrawler2050 · 23-10-2009, 12:38

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Originally Posted by ZrByte

The strike IS About doing the job we are contacted to do, its also about not doing the job the person who used to work adjacent to you used to do for no extra pay because he was made redundant because his job supposedly doesn't exist any more.
The last set of strikes in 07 where about pay rates etc, this time it really isnt. Though pay could be seen as an issue because we are being forced to take on extra duties for no extra pay its still not about rates.
And I dare you to say that bit about Lorry driving to a drivers face and walk away without at least a verbal battering.

Easily - it's not a hard job - sorting letters, therefore the pay reflect the level of "skill" involved. Whilst "driving" is not "hard" it has other downside, concentration whilst driving etc. All the usual old tosh. Personally, i'd sake the lot of you - your useless, can't do anything right for the postal service and cause nothing but hassle for the general public and business alike. Very selfish as I said. Again, maybe you should all just wind your necks in and get on with your job. Like I said, your very lucky to have a job considering this "recession" i'm sure agencies are happy to bring in temps and maybe that would be a good idea as temps you have "no rights" etc.
Being forced to take on extra tasks in your day to day job, is unfortunatly, the way any business survives in times like these. RM isn't profitable enough as it is. Therefore, the chiefs have to make "choices" i'm afraid. When I asked, the post lady what she was striking for. She didn't want to answer, which again, seems to be the general rule of thumb. So what are you all sheep? I mean, c'mon - is all of this "idiotic-ness" needed. Seriously? Or can't you all open you mouths and talk to your line managers?

/rant over

Pierre · 23-10-2009, 12:41

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Originally Posted by ZrByte

Don't patronise me and just because its common place that doesn't make it right.

It is what it is.

And if you guys took a little time and actually listened to what you're saying, you would realise why there is no groundswell of public support for your cause.

Get real. Personally I'd sack the lot of you and replace you all with more forward, freethinking, and dynamic personnel.

I reckon the RM would have no worries filling any vacant positions.