Netflix/Streaming Services
19-11-2017, 20:31
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by denphone
You are entitled to your opinion as are others and my good self.
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Absolutely but you need to start backing up this "never going to happen" with links at least.
OB and myself have posted numerous links showing the groth of streaming and the possibility of streaming companies bidding for football rights or at least highlights.
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19-11-2017, 20:45
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by theone2k10
Absolutely but you need to start backing up this "never going to happen" with links at least.
OB and myself have posted numerous links showing the groth of streaming and the possibility of streaming companies bidding for football rights or at least highlights.
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Bang on.
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20-11-2017, 05:35
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by theone2k10
Absolutely but you need to start backing up this "never going to happen" with links at least.
OB and myself have posted numerous links showing the groth of streaming and the possibility of streaming companies bidding for football rights or at least highlights.
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And apart from some smaller sports rights there is diddly squat chance of the streaming companies ever bidding for the major UK football rights as you and OB will find out in due time.
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20-11-2017, 07:03
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by theone2k10
Absolutely but you need to start backing up this "never going to happen" with links at least.
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The status quo isn't newsworthy, there simply aren't numerous links for him to provide. He's no more likely to find links to articles about the continuity of linear tv than he would find articles about whether we will still have a piped water supply in x years time.
Assumptions based on extrapolating the current growth curve of streaming services isn't entirely accurate. Keep extrapolating the current curve and you'll get to a point where there are more people watching streaming services than there are people in the world. At some point, the gradient of the curve will change, flatten out, maybe go into decline. That's the unknown factor, how long is the current trend sustainable, It could be years, months, weeks even. Articles based on current trends are just that, and trends change.
One opinion is no more correct than another, they are only opinions.
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20-11-2017, 07:51
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by denphone
l don't need any credibility as l never had any to start with but your trail of false predictions and great new dawns has certainly reduced your credibility that teeny weeny bit.
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I have not left 'a trail of false predictions'. Again, you come out with this stuff with no justification, and so credibility is certainly at issue when you do this.
The only prediction that went wrong for me was the famous Sky Atlantic issue, but that was based on an article that turned out not to be correct in the end.
Of course, you can disagree with me or whomever you like, but please give us a justification for your view so you are not constantly accused of believing that nothing will ever change.
I welcome a good debate, but constant responses of 'It will never happen, take your rose tinted glasses off' can be a bit wearing.
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Originally Posted by jj20x
The status quo isn't newsworthy, there simply aren't numerous links for him to provide. He's no more likely to find links to articles about the continuity of linear tv than he would find articles about whether we will still have a piped water supply in x years time.
Assumptions based on extrapolating the current growth curve of streaming services isn't entirely accurate. Keep extrapolating the current curve and you'll get to a point where there are more people watching streaming services than there are people in the world. At some point, the gradient of the curve will change, flatten out, maybe go into decline. That's the unknown factor, how long is the current trend sustainable, It could be years, months, weeks even. Articles based on current trends are just that, and trends change.
One opinion is no more correct than another, they are only opinions.
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That is true to an extent, but if you are going to rubbish someone else's post, one can at least provide an explanation.
Whether extrapolation is really an issue with the debate about whether Amazon will go for the Premiership rights is debateable. We still don't know why Den takes the view he does, but we have provided plenty of links to indicate that this is precisely what will happen, either this time round or next.
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Originally Posted by denphone
And apart from some smaller sports rights there is diddly squat chance of the streaming companies ever bidding for the major UK football rights as you and OB will find out in due time.
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And you say that why, Den?
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20-11-2017, 12:10
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by denphone
And apart from some smaller sports rights there is diddly squat chance of the streaming companies ever bidding for the major UK football rights as you and OB will find out in due time.
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You might want to get some seasoning in for that straw hat of yours.
I love a good debate and difference of opinions.
Not sports related something that is very interesting i think someone reported in the coming soon thread that Comcast are interested in buying SKY,
if this happens comcast i think will give SKYgo a massive overhaul and bring it inline with Comcasts own streaming service for customers xfinity (not the same channels before den throws his slippers at the cat :p ) also there is a strong chance that they will work with their partners to bring HULU to the UK.
HULU have already stated they are aiming to have HULU in the UK by the end of 2020, interesting times ahead.
Last edited by theone2k10; 20-11-2017 at 12:16.
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20-11-2017, 12:46
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by theone2k10
You might want to get some seasoning in for that straw hat of yours.
I love a good debate and difference of opinions.
Not sports related something that is very interesting i think someone reported in the coming soon thread that Comcast are interested in buying SKY,
if this happens comcast i think will give SKYgo a massive overhaul and bring it inline with Comcasts own streaming service for customers xfinity (not the same channels before den throws his slippers at the cat :p ) also there is a strong chance that they will work with their partners to bring HULU to the UK.
HULU have already stated they are aiming to have HULU in the UK by the end of 2020, interesting times ahead.
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On the face of it at least, this could be good for us, the consumers. If so, let's hope this actually happens.
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20-11-2017, 12:51
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by theone2k10
You might want to get some seasoning in for that straw hat of yours.
I love a good debate and difference of opinions.
Not sports related something that is very interesting i think someone reported in the coming soon thread that Comcast are interested in buying SKY,
if this happens comcast i think will give SKYgo a massive overhaul and bring it inline with Comcasts own streaming service for customers xfinity (not the same channels before den throws his slippers at the cat :p ) also there is a strong chance that they will work with their partners to bring HULU to the UK.
HULU have already stated they are aiming to have HULU in the UK by the end of 2020, interesting times ahead.
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What does HULU show mate?
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20-11-2017, 12:58
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Personal opinion but I can't see Amazon wanting to pay in excess of the £1.4 billion a season Sky currently pays.
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20-11-2017, 13:01
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Personal opinion but I can't see Amazon wanting to pay in excess of the £1.4 billion a season Sky currently pays per season.
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Why not? They can afford it!
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20-11-2017, 13:18
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Why not? They can afford it!
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So could ESPN
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20-11-2017, 13:53
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Whether extrapolation is really an issue with the debate about whether Amazon will go for the Premiership rights is debateable. We still don't know why Den takes the view he does, but we have provided plenty of links to indicate that this is precisely what will happen, either this time round or next.
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I think the proof of that specific issue will enfold as we become aware of the actual bidders. Debating the situation won't actually change, or even influence what happens. I doubt that links really give an indication of "precisely" what will happen, the passage of time between now and then gives scope for a change of mind / policy.
At the moment, looking at this debate from the outside, it just seems to be a case of stating "oh yes they will" or "oh no they won't" across several threads. The panto season is alive and well on CF.
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20-11-2017, 14:08
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Personal opinion but I can't see Amazon wanting to pay in excess of the £1.4 billion a season Sky currently pays.
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Praise the lord as wisdom and reality prevails at last.
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Why not? They can afford it!
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You have no understanding of the UK football rights market do you OB?.
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Originally Posted by jj20x
I think the proof of that specific issue will enfold as we become aware of the actual bidders. Debating the situation won't actually change, or even influence what happens. I doubt that links really give an indication of "precisely" what will happen, the passage of time between now and then gives scope for a change of mind / policy.
At the moment, looking at this debate from the outside, it just seems to be a case of stating "oh yes they will" or "oh no they won't" across several threads. The panto season is alive and well on CF.
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Its alright as l will be the villain and OB can be Widow Twankey.
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20-11-2017, 14:51
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Mad Max
What does HULU show mate?
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Hulu is a on demand service shows stuff from FOX, CBS, ABC etc along it's own original content and movies too.
Recently HULU launched a live tv streaming service too offering most networks live. Check it out here you can view the site but not content without a vpn but should give you an idea mate www.hulu.com
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
So could ESPN
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Could being the key word if reports are true ESPN are in a bit of trouble, losing subscribers at an alarming rate.
But they are already working on a streaming service.
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20-11-2017, 16:26
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by jj20x
I think the proof of that specific issue will enfold as we become aware of the actual bidders. Debating the situation won't actually change, or even influence what happens. I doubt that links really give an indication of "precisely" what will happen, the passage of time between now and then gives scope for a change of mind / policy.
At the moment, looking at this debate from the outside, it just seems to be a case of stating "oh yes they will" or "oh no they won't" across several threads. The panto season is alive and well on CF.
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Nobody knows what precisely will happen. All these posts are speculative, I thought that was as good as read.
I am not an insider, and when I say I believe something will change, it's based on material that I read and sounds credible.
If we took off everything that was not speculation, the 'Coming Soon' thread would not exist!
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