Football : Season 2011/12

[danielf]

Originally Posted by denphone

l won't disagree with that but nevertheless still a great goal from someone who has always been under-rated by many.

Oh yes. It's a great goal, but what made van Basten's goal truly exceptional was the impossible angle. There's none of that in this goal. Still a cracking goal though

[Uncle Peter]

Originally Posted by iadom

I think its very sporting of Liverpool to donate three points to a fellow Lancashire club.

I donated over 100 quid to the overpaid wasters' wage fund go and watch that

[denphone]

Well Celtic might win the Scottish title by a distance but they are certainly being given a mauling by Rangers.

[colin25]

Officials were probably told to not let celtic win today...to ensure the animals don't riot

[denphone]

Originally Posted by colin25

Officials were probably told to not let celtic win today...to ensure the animals don't riot

Steady on old chap.

[colin25]

Just my view on the people who cause trouble

[denphone]

Great start by Newcastle as they are running the show at West Brom.

Originally Posted by denphone

Goal of the season by Peter Crouch for Stoke against Man City.

It must be a contender

[Shadow Demon UK]

A very good article about Liverpool - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-failings.html

I think that sums up their current state very well.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

A very good article about Liverpool - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-failings.html

I think that sums up their current state very well.

Its seems critics are only to quick to come to conclusions about football clubs and l remember the knives were out for other clubs earlier in the season yet those voices of doom seem to have suddenly gone quiet and l think people should also remember that it would take at least 3 to 5 years for Liverpool to regain more prominence and those words came from the owners and in my mind people just have to be more patient as things cannot be turned around overnight and l do rightly remember when SAF came to Man Utd the same type of surgery was needed and at one stage he was very close to the sack but the club stood strong and kept patience with him and we all know what followed so l also thing patience is required at Liverpool as it takes time to turn the ship around.

Originally Posted by denphone

Its seems critics are only to quick to come to conclusions about football clubs and l remember the knives were out for other clubs earlier in the season yet those voices of doom seem to have suddenly gone quiet and l think people should also remember that it would take at least 3 to 5 years for Liverpool to regain more prominence and those words came from the owners and in my mind people just have to be more patient as things cannot be turned around overnight and l do rightly remember when SAF came to Man Utd the same type of surgery was needed and at one stage he was very close to the sack but the club stood strong and kept patience with him and we all know what followed so l also thing patience is required at Liverpool as it takes time to turn the ship around.

The thing that argument would work if there were more evident sign of upward progress and if he hadn't been given a lot of money which he has poorly invested in the team. He also dealt poorly with the racism story this season but has meant spending a lot of goodwill he had amongst the press.

[Uncle Peter]

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

A very good article about Liverpool - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-failings.html

I think that sums up their current state very well.

Chris Bascombe has never written a very good article in his life and I very much doubt he's going to start doing so anytime soon.

It is shameful that a that a credible publication should give a two-bit hack with a massive chip on his shoulder licence to waste ink and electrons.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

The thing that argument would work if there were more evident sign of upward progress and if he hadn't been given a lot of money which he has poorly invested in the team. He also dealt poorly with the racism story this season but has meant spending a lot of goodwill he had amongst the press.

Yes true Liverpool handed the racism story poorly but lets remember we have won a trophy and lets also remember players sometimes can take over a season before they show their true potential and if l righty remember Several others clubs have had to be patient with big name signings as they can take a fair while to adapt to a different style of play and tactics so l think perhaps the time to judge Liverpool and Kenny is at the end of next season as short-termism never did any club any good as we are now seeing at another London club.

Originally Posted by denphone

Yes true Liverpool handed the racism story poorly but lets remember we have won a trophy and lets also remember players sometimes can take over a season before they show their true potential and if l righty remember Several others clubs have had to be patient with big name signings as they can take a fair while to adapt to a different style of play and tactics so l think perhaps the time to judge Liverpool and Kenny is at the end of next season as short-termism never did any club any good as we are now seeing at another London club.

I think the reaction to Liverpool shows how little significance is given to winning cups if you don't perform in the league.

Liverpool's issue is quite simply that they are not in contention for a Champions League spot which it's fans and owners believe is where Liverpool should be. In reality this is difficult given there are five clubs better than Liverpool in the league; United, City, Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal. However Liverpool are a way behind Newcastle and risk finishing behind Sunderland and Everton amongst others. Additionally they have spent considerably more than some of those teams to build the current squad of players. The team that goes out cost more than Arsenal and United. Some of those players, especially the more expensive ones, were the responsibly of Kenny Daglish and Damien Comolli.

I agree he shouldn't be fired but he is under performing for the money he was given.

An interesting stat....

Liverpool have taken 24 points from the last 20 league games under Dalglish.

Hodgson was only manager for 20 league games. He was sacked for his poor record of picking up just 25 points.

So it must be the Carling Cup that will keep Dalglish in the job ?