07-02-2022, 20:59
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Ha ha. Thanks. That one seems to get circulated every few years. Still a goodie.
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09-02-2022, 09:23
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Re: Britain outside the EU
I think this makes for uncomfortable reading whichever way you went in the referendum.
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Brexit causing 'increased costs, paperwork, delays' say MPs
UK firms have been hit by "increased costs, paperwork and border delays" as a result of Brexit, MPs have said.
A report from parliament's spending watchdog, the Public Accounts Committee (PAC), said it "was clear" that leaving the EU was having an impact on UK trade volumes.
It also warned things could worsen this year as new import controls come in.
The government said it continued to ensure businesses "got the support they need to trade effectively with Europe".
"One of the great promises of Brexit was freeing British businesses to give them the headroom to maximise their productivity and contribution to the economy - even more desperately needed now on the long road to recovery from the pandemic," said PAC chair Meg Hillier.
"Yet the only detectable impact so far is increased costs, paperwork and border delays."
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60308494
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09-02-2022, 09:30
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I think this makes for uncomfortable reading whichever way you went in the referendum.
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Nothing we didn't already know, Andrew.
The fruits of Brexit will take a little time to be appreciated - if you expected a major change within two years of leaving, you would have been wildly optimistic.
The initial period, inevitably, must be spent building back to where we were, which means rollover trade deals, implementing all the new arrangements for trade, etc.
Once that is in place, we can start building on that and taking advantage of new opportunities.
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09-02-2022, 10:11
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Nothing we didn't already know, Andrew.
The fruits of Brexit will take a little time to be appreciated - if you expected a major change within two years of leaving, you would have been wildly optimistic.
The initial period, inevitably, must be spent building back to where we were, which means rollover trade deals, implementing all the new arrangements for trade, etc.
Once that is in place, we can start building on that and taking advantage of new opportunities.
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If you read the article, and the tales of businesses trying to export to the EU, you will hear a somewhat different story.
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09-02-2022, 10:24
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Nothing we didn't already know, Andrew.
The fruits of Brexit will take a little time to be appreciated - if you expected a major change within two years of leaving, you would have been wildly optimistic.
The initial period, inevitably, must be spent building back to where we were, which means rollover trade deals, implementing all the new arrangements for trade, etc.
Once that is in place, we can start building on that and taking advantage of new opportunities.
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Utter fantasy
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09-02-2022, 10:33
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
If you read the article, and the tales of businesses trying to export to the EU, you will hear a somewhat different story.
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Just read it . . . "tales of businesses trying to export to the EU" that Andrew alludes to is just one business:
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Mary Quicke, an artisan cheesemaker based in Devon
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The rest is just a report by the ' parliament's spending watchdog, the Public Accounts Committee (PAC)' . . repeating ad infinitum what we already know
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09-02-2022, 10:37
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Carth
Just read it . . . "tales of businesses trying to export to the EU" that Andrew alludes to is just one business:
he rest is just a report by the ' parliament's spending watchdog, the Public Accounts Committee (PAC)' . . repeating ad infinitum what we already know
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I advised Old Boy to read the article and the tales of businesses trying to export to the EU.
Good to see you acknowledge the increased costs and delays. We need to improve matters as more checks are coming up in the summer.
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09-02-2022, 10:40
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I advised Old Boy to read the article and the tales of businesses trying to export to the EU.
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Same applies, businesses still moaning about stuff they've been moaning about for ages, nothing new
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09-02-2022, 11:09
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Same applies, businesses still moaning about stuff they've been moaning about for ages, nothing new
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I think an independent enquiry like this one carries quite a bit of weight to it.
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09-02-2022, 11:55
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I think an independent enquiry like this one carries quite a bit of weight to it.
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An independent enquiry that's taken months - if not years - to reach the same findings as everone else has know for years?
Stop trying to sidestep the fact it's old news
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09-02-2022, 12:08
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I still say remainers, because other words would get me a ban.
They ain't worth a ban.
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09-02-2022, 12:21
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Carth
An independent enquiry that's taken months - if not years - to reach the same findings as everone else has know for years?
Stop trying to sidestep the fact it's old news
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It's making the front pages of news websites which suggests to me it's news.
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09-02-2022, 12:29
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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If you read the article, and the tales of businesses trying to export to the EU, you will hear a somewhat different story.
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I read the article, thanks. It changes nothing. We have a wider world out there, the EU is not the be all and end all.
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09-02-2022, 12:49
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I still say remainers, because other words would get me a ban.
They ain't worth a ban.
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Thanks for the valuable insight
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09-02-2022, 13:01
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Utter fantasy
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Negative to the end, eh, Ianch?
Have patience…
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