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[colin25]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Dont think BT are any different from BSKYB theyve haven't paid those exhuberant amounts to make all their key British games FTA , its all about driving subscriptions the FTA games are probably just to meet UEFA's requirements.

Like Den says things are going to get pricey.

Couldn't BT open up another channel? And charge for that?

[harry_hitch]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Dont think BT are any different from BSKYB theyve haven't paid those exhuberant amounts to make all their key British games FTA , its all about driving subscriptions the FTA games are probably just to meet UEFA's requirements.

Like Den says things are going to get pricey.

Not sure on their stance currently, but it was never about BT Sports getting subscriptions, it was about getting customers on triple package deals.
They may very well only put the minimum number of games on FTA, I was just saying they may not. They may get better ad revenues from showing them FTA. Who knows?

It's only going to get pricey if people continue to pay through the nose for it.

I miss massive amounts of sports I would like to watch, but I refuse to pay the prices. I have no sympathy for those who do pay, you are perpetuating you own sporting financial problems.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by harry_hitch

Not sure on their stance currently, but it was never about BT Sports getting subscriptions, it was about getting customers on triple package deals.
They may very well only put the minimum number of games on FTA, I was just saying they may not. They may get better ad revenues from showing them FTA. Who knows?

It's only going to get pricey if people continue to pay through the nose for it.

I miss massive amounts of sports I would like to watch, but I refuse to pay the prices. I have no sympathy for those who do pay, you are perpetuating you own sporting financial problems.

yes, fault does lay with purchasers...and sellers

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by harry_hitch

Not sure on their stance currently, but it was never about BT Sports getting subscriptions, it was about getting customers on triple package deals.
They may very well only put the minimum number of games on FTA, I was just saying they may not. They may get better ad revenues from showing them FTA. Who knows?

It's only going to get pricey if people continue to pay through the nose for it.

I miss massive amounts of sports I would like to watch, but I refuse to pay the prices. I have no sympathy for those who do pay, you are perpetuating you own sporting financial problems.

No need to roll your eyes at me , I dont pay it I'm currently on a half price Sky Sports discount for 12 months costing me £11 a month , I simply refuse to pay full I also dont sub to BT Sports or PS.

How long do you see BT Sports being free with BT BB for ?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by harry_hitch

Not sure on their stance currently, but it was never about BT Sports getting subscriptions, it was about getting customers on triple package deals.
They may very well only put the minimum number of games on FTA, I was just saying they may not. They may get better ad revenues from showing them FTA. Who knows?

It's only going to get pricey if people continue to pay through the nose for it.

I miss massive amounts of sports I would like to watch, but I refuse to pay the prices. I have no sympathy for those who do pay, you are perpetuating you own sporting financial problems.

Well that's a personal choice we will have to make Harry but lets just say its going to get a whole lot harder but remember there are many who spend a lot on alcohol and tobacco and that again is their own personal choice and nobody elses at the end of the day.

[alwaysabear]

I am surprised these companies are paying so much when you see the average viewing figures for EPL games are less than 1.5 million.

[spankysmagicpian]

Originally Posted by harry_hitch

Not really. Sky should be able to cut their costs because they no won't have to pay for the CL rights.

BT have said their costs will be cheaper than they have been previously, so in theory it should save money.

It is down to Sky cut costs to make the price savings now. If they don't it just proves their massive greed.

Can you see Sky dropping their normal SS prices? No, neither can I.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by colin25

Couldn't BT open up another channel? And charge for that?

Possibly. I do however reading back in February when BT bought ESPN that the ESPN branded channel would stay on air until 2015. You'll maybe find that in the summer of 2015 ESPN will close and BT launch BT Sports 3.

As we've seen with other carriage deals it's possible that BT Sports 1 & 2 will remain in XL with ESPN dropping out. Virgin would then need to agree a new carriage deal for the inclusion of BT Sports 3 or maybe BT would prefer to keep the new channel exclusive to themselves?

The next 2 years will be very interesting. As BT continue to add more and more channels to BT Vision, we might see a service from BT in 2015 that genuinely rivals Virgin Media and SKY. The deal between SKY and HBO expires in 2015. BT Atlantic anyone

[denphone]

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian

Can you see Sky dropping their normal SS prices? No, neither can I.

l wonder if in 2015 their PPV events like boxing and wrestling will suddenly not be PPV events in order to placate their sports customers.

[thenry]

So more channels to launch on BT Sports, 3 & 4 plus red button ?

BT need to sort their 'British' punditry out. Sky has a good foundation in that area, BT haven't. BT though does have good continental Europe punditry. I reckon its time they threw people out and nabbed people from ITV/Sky leading up to 2015

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Chad

Possibly. I do however reading back in February when BT bought ESPN that the ESPN branded channel would stay on air until 2015. You'll maybe find that in the summer of 2015 ESPN will close and BT launch BT Sports 3.

As we've seen with other carriage deals it's possible that BT Sports 1 & 2 will remain in XL with ESPN dropping out. Virgin would then need to agree a new carriage deal for the inclusion of BT Sports 3 or maybe BT would prefer to keep the new channel exclusive to themselves?

The next 2 years will be very interesting. As BT continue to add more and more channels to BT Vision, we might see a service from BT in 2015 that genuinely rivals Virgin Media and SKY. The deal between SKY and HBO expires in 2015. BT Atlantic anyone

Its a bit like the pot calling the kettle black if they do that.

No but we will get Sky Atlantic soon enough though.

[spankysmagicpian]

Originally Posted by denphone

l wonder if in 2015 their PPV events like boxing and wrestling will suddenly not be PPV events in order to placate their sports customers.

I think they are too niche to make any impact if they were FTV.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by denphone

l wonder if in 2015 their PPV events like boxing and wrestling will suddenly not be PPV events in order to placate their sports customers.

I can't see it. Remember in 2014 SKY is set to become the home of international football with the exclusive rights for up to 500 games:

http://corporate.sky.com/media/press..._on_sky_sports

[denphone]

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian

I think they are too niche to make any impact if they were FTV.

So the question is what will they fill in with the hole that losing CL football will bring?.

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Originally Posted by Chad

I can't see it. Remember in 2014 SKY is set to become the home of international football with the exclusive rights for up to 500 games:

http://corporate.sky.com/media/press..._on_sky_sports

Some how l don't think having that will fill the gap Chad.

[braysoj1]

does this mean from 2015 no games on sky or itv