Brexit

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

How is it an agreement or deal when it has been rejected 3 times ?

it's a failed proposal.

It's rather like Parliament turning its back on the EU. So that's where the Brexit Party got the idea from.

Or did the Lib-Dems get the word "Bollocks" from Parliament saying Bollocks to the Withdrawal Agreement?

Either was Bollocks and Backs win.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Damien

'Agreement' itself is a synonym for deal.

There is no agreement and there is no deal. Parliament has rejected it.

Let's just call it a try-on!

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Pierre

. They are there to remind the EU that the U.K. voted Leave.



https://www.facebook.com/LBC/videos/...435399&sfns=mo

24 seconds in.

I see no reference to the EU "national" anthem being mentioned. Fake news ..

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I see no reference to the EU "national" anthem being mentioned. Fake news ..

No but you will hear it as being referred to as a country's anthem. Unless you are deaf of course.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by nomadking

The only thing Sinn Féin don't do is swear allegiance to the Crown. No different to not acknowledging an anthem. Sinn Féin get paid salaries, claim expenses, and even visit the Houses of Parliament. They just don't enter the chamber itself.

They get paid allowances because they are representing their constituents, holding surgeries, replying to emails, etc.

They are not allowed to draw a backbencher’s salary, pension and receieve other grants as they do not attend the House so you seem to be misinformed here.

The Brexit Party MEPs are just 5th columnists who aim is to disrupt the EU Parliament. They are total hypocrites and nothing more than you would expect from something Farage put together.

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Originally Posted by pip08456

No but you will hear it as being referred to as a country's anthem. Unless you are deaf of course.

You are deaf it seems. That is not what was said ..

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

[COLOR="Black"]What are the values that the European countries share (see the link above)? Where have these been defined?

Common sense tells you what some of them ought to be - democracy, freedom, prosperity and so on.

Bur corruption is not one of the common values; dysfunction (see the current top jobs process for details) is not one of the common values; a CAP designed for France is not one of the common values; a Euro designed for Germany is not one of the common values; federalisation is not one of the common values although it is sold by the likes of Juncker as such.

If the Brexit Party MEPs want to turn their backs on the symbol of pretence that the EU is a benign and benevolent body, then good luck to them.

If the Liberal-Democrats want to emblazon "Bollocks to Brexit" on their backs, then they were made for the undemocratic EU and Bollocks to them when we leave on 31-October.

But you are just superimposing your subjective perspective onto these values. Your right of course but it does not make you correct.

Let me ask you this: if you got a job at a new company and were sent the company standards e.g. dress code, protocols, etc. and you turned up in a tee shirt & shorts, went to your desk and played loud music all day, doing no work, would the company have a case that you are not doing the job you are being paid to do?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by ianch99

They get paid allowances because they are representing their constituents, holding surgeries, replying to emails, etc.

They are not allowed to draw a backbencher’s salary, pension and receieve other grants as they do not attend the House so you seem to be misinformed here.

The Brexit Party MEPs are just 5th columnists who aim is to disrupt the EU Parliament. They are total hypocrites and nothing more than you would expect from something Farage put together.

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You are deaf it seems. That is not what was said ..

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But you are just superimposing your subjective perspective onto these values. Your right of course but it does not make you correct.

Let me ask you this: if you got a job at a new company and were sent the company standards e.g. dress code, protocols, etc. and you turned up in a tee shirt & shorts, went to your desk and played loud music all day, doing no work, would the company have a case that you are not doing the job you are being paid to do?

An explanation why Mr Farage needs his EU salary

he insists he needs his £94,000 annual MEP's salary because he cannot live in a 'mud hut'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...edia-firm.html


Seems reasonable to me.

He’s repatriating a little of that £350 million. Fair dos.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Chris

He’s repatriating a little of that £350 million. Fair dos.

It wasn't the plan was to "repatriate" the money into his own pockets though True man of the people ...

Originally Posted by papa smurf

An explanation why Mr Farage needs his EU salary

he insists he needs his £94,000 annual MEP's salary because he cannot live in a 'mud hut'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...edia-firm.html


Seems reasonable to me.

I thought Arron Banks paid for NF’s "not a mud hut"?

[papa smurf]

Great speech from Anne Widecombe

'Thank God we’re leaving!' Widdecombe speech stuns 'undemocratic' European Parliament

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/11...ean-Parliament

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Great speech from Anne Widecombe

'Thank God we’re leaving!' Widdecombe speech stuns 'undemocratic' European Parliament

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/11...ean-Parliament

Do you mean the elected MEP Anne Widdecombe who was addressing the other elected MEPs?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Do you mean the elected MEP Anne Widdecombe who was addressing the other elected MEPs?

Sadly the election of mep's is the only time democracy is seen in action in the EU dictatorship.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Sadly the election of mep's is the only time democracy is seen in action in the EU dictatorship.

clearly you don't know what word dictatorship means

Originally Posted by Dave42

clearly you don't know what word dictatorship means

Clearly you don't seeing as you cannot see the wood for the trees - The EU is a dictatorship, having it's own anthem and Flag and creating future laws where one cannot insult or burn such disgusting flags, I mean come on FFS , it is suppose to be a trade union, not a fecking country.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Mick

Clearly you don't seeing as you cannot see the wood for the trees - The EU is a dictatorship, having it's own anthem and Flag and creating future laws where one cannot insult or burn such disgusting flags, I mean come on FFS , it is suppose to be a trade union, not a fecking country.

it not try living in a real dictatorship like North Korea then say that yes lots wrong with EU but it aint a dictatorship people have lots of freedoms you never ever get in a dictatorship