All F1 2004 Discussions - Page 25

Matth · 25-07-2004, 18:53

Where would Button have finished if it were not for the 10 place engine change penalty?

And what was the gizmo that they weren't allowed to use?

TigaSefi · 25-07-2004, 18:54

My jaw hit the floor today, there was an overtaking manuovre between the top 3 cars

Jonboy · 25-07-2004, 18:59

poor kimi i would not like to be in that camp tonight when he gets back what a shame could have been a real good race as i thought schui had AT LAST HAVE TO EARN HIS PAY but as per normal god looked down and smiled

25-07-2004, 19:08

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

deffo a good result for button , pretty good race as well i thought

oh yes - brilliant drive by Button, amazing how he kept it together considering the problems he had with his helmet strap

I thought The TV director helped the enjoyment of the race by concentrating on the action, rather than showing Shumacher circulating on his own. The dice between Button & Alonso was the nearest I've seen to proper racing in any race this season.

It was also nice to see DC there or there abouts, but you have to feel sorry for Raikonnen - shame 'cos he looked the most likely to give Shumacher a race, for a change.

Got to wait 3 weeks now

iadom · 25-07-2004, 19:13

Did I miss something I watched the start, and dipped in between overs, but when it came to a choice of another Schumacher win and watching Andrew (Freddie) Flintoff, flail the West Indies bowling into the stands it was no contest.

paulyoung666 · 26-07-2004, 16:07

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Originally Posted by homealone

oh yes - brilliant drive by Button, amazing how he kept it together considering the problems he had with his helmet strap

I thought The TV director helped the enjoyment of the race by concentrating on the action, rather than showing Shumacher circulating on his own. The dice between Button & Alonso was the nearest I've seen to proper racing in any race this season.

It was also nice to see DC there or there abouts, but you have to feel sorry for Raikonnen - shame 'cos he looked the most likely to give Shumacher a race, for a change.

Got to wait 3 weeks now

pretty damned scary was kimi's accident , i must admit to being a little surprised to see mclaren keeping dc out on the track after a failure like that , can you imagine the outcry if dc had the same problem and was injured or even killed

cookie_365 · 26-07-2004, 16:37

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Originally Posted by Matth

Where would Button have finished if it were not for the 10 place engine change penalty?

Second

paulyoung666 · 26-07-2004, 17:06

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Originally Posted by cookie_365

Second

not quite so sure my friend , but then i guess we will never know

, i reckon it wont be long until jb wins a race

cookie_365 · 27-07-2004, 18:26

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

not quite so sure my friend , but then i guess we will never know

, i reckon it wont be long until jb wins a race

Hmm, JB's fastest lap was about 1/3 of a second slower than MS's. That's a big difference. I think JB'll get a win maybe next season but good as the BAR is he'll need a better car to be a serious contender. When's Rubens planning to retire?

paulyoung666 · 27-07-2004, 18:48

and the fact that they fuelled up jb's car means nothing , if they had fuelled him up but he didnt have the penalty of starting 13th , makes me wonder it does

cookie_365 · 27-07-2004, 22:08

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

and the fact that they fuelled up jb's car means nothing , if they had fuelled him up but he didnt have the penalty of starting 13th , makes me wonder it does

Yes, I agree, the BAR is a real surprise this year, and the car suits JB (and Taku when the engine isn't spreading itself over the racing line ...), I just don't think its as good as the Ferrari, and I don't think JB is as good as MS.

But that doesn't stop him from being a great driver. It's his bad luck *for now* that he's racing while MS & Ferrari are dominating so much, but I think in about 5 years he'll see the benefits when MS&F are no longer the same force and JB'll have all the experience from having had such a high target to aim at when he were a real slip of a lad.

Future champion? Just maybe.

paulyoung666 · 27-07-2004, 22:09

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Originally Posted by cookie_365

Yes, I agree, the BAR is a real surprise this year, and the car suits JB (and Taku when the engine isn't spreading itself over the racing line ...), I just don't think its as good as the Ferrari, and I don't think JB is as good as MS.

But that doesn't stop him from being a great driver. It's his bad luck *for now* that he's racing while MS & Ferrari are dominating so much, but I think in about 5 years he'll see the benefits when MS&F are no longer the same force and JB'll have all the experience from having had such a high target to aim at when he were a real slip of a lad.

Future champion? Just maybe.

jb deffo future champ i reckon

sherer · 28-07-2004, 15:57

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Originally Posted by cookie_365

Yes, I agree, the BAR is a real surprise this year, and the car suits JB (and Taku when the engine isn't spreading itself over the racing line ...), I just don't think its as good as the Ferrari, and I don't think JB is as good as MS.

But that doesn't stop him from being a great driver. It's his bad luck *for now* that he's racing while MS & Ferrari are dominating so much, but I think in about 5 years he'll see the benefits when MS&F are no longer the same force and JB'll have all the experience from having had such a high target to aim at when he were a real slip of a lad.

Future champion? Just maybe.

i was thinking about this the other day.. basically for Ferrari now read Benetton 94-95. They bought Shuey and then he got Ferrari to sign Bryne, Brawn etc from Benetton. yes they have developed some people in house since then but alot of the team was purchased from others during the 90s.. not sure what the old man would have made of Ferrari today

paulyoung666 · 28-07-2004, 16:29

webber goes to williams

and

schumacher in race of champions

i will deffo keep an eye out for the race of champs program , should be well interesting

28-07-2004, 17:01

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

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schumacher in race of champions

i will deffo keep an eye out for the race of champs program , should be well interesting

me too, I've not seen this for a while, but from what I remember, it's quite a lot of fun, with different types of cars over the rounds & taking it in turns to go the 'long' way round the circuit. I just hope it is shown on terrestrial or Eurosport