Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by joglynne

Very glad to hear you are sorted Peter. Lets hope the rest of the VM Liverpool guys are as successful.

Thank you Jo and I am looking forward to the change of job and many colleagues have new jobs lined up or companies actually headhunting experienced staff.

Originally Posted by joglynne

Can I also add that I have come to know you over the time you have been a member of CF and I assume that you, like most normal people, have changed and matured as you grew older so I viewed your earlier comments as being a candid reflection back on more youthful times.

Yes I was reflecting on a time when I was much younger without any ties or responsibilities and to be more precise it was just before the miners strike as it was in a mining village, try finding one of those in South Wales nowadays.

If you are single and aware of the risks involved moving so far away from everyone then go for it but I know that the will be a low take up which the company realised from day one even though they paid lip service and offered the opportunity to move.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Peter_

I have had my confirmation so Monday awaits, I will not post details as yet due to the thread above but the relevant people know where I am going.

Good luck to everyone at the Albert Dock and I wish them well with their endeavours in securing a new position.

Good Luck Peter, let us know how you get on, on Facebook

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

Good Luck Peter, let us know how you get on, on Facebook

Thank you much appreciated.

I expect more are leaving today as well down there.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Good to hear that you're fixed up OK Hope your ex-colleagues are as lucky.

Many are doing all right because once the other local firms knew what was happening they sent in head hunting teams with the Virgin Media's permission and gave company overviews and ran tests and gave out application forms.

I applied outside of this though and had 3 positions on offer but chose the nearest one to my house.

The are plenty of positions locally and the is no real need to go to Swansea.

thanks for your comments.

[RichardCoulter]

Admin edit(Chris): This is completely unacceptable. If you wish to offer unsolicited personal advice to other members do it somewhere other than the public forum. Any repeat of this will result in a formal warning and most likely a significant period of suspension.

EVERYBODY please keep this thread on topic and refrain from making any further personal comments.

[MovedGoalPosts]

It's a pity that the previous moderator comments were not respected.

[whizzard]

Is an interesting paradox for sure. Its unbelievable how much long term service and versatile knowledge has been lost via the company's decision to consolidate and relocate departments to Swansea and take them in house. They may well have sent people down to train those at the end of the M4 corridor, but teaching a process is but one part of the puzzle. Those being taught need to have the fundamental understanding in the first place. Knowing the route of a technical flow really is not enough, as you need to really know why A is asked to reach B and end up at outcome C.

Regarding the difference between 1st and 2nd line - I would imagine due to the shifting of roles there are many whom have been "seconded" into 'level 2' roles purely to make up the team numbers. It's those long serving employees and a few old school undervalued technical minds that will be expected to carry the can. The fact that the company are desperately scrambling to employ staff to make up the numbers also speaks volumes, and sadly some will no doubt be employed purely because they can "use the Internet". Being able to log into facebook does not make one a technical support guru.

[Sephiroth]

There is great danger here of over-analysing the situation and inventing meanings, intentions and outcomes.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

There is great danger here of over-analysing the situation and inventing meanings, intentions and outcomes.

I think if you knew the staff who are being made redundant you would understand whizzard's comments more as they are not seconded 1st line agents in Liverpool as they have to be very knowledgeable and must pass a very stringent series of tests, unlike the new guys were we hear the tests and interviews were dumbed down in order to get people on board in the new positions.

If you spoke to a 2nd line agent from Liverpool you would understand exactly what I mean.

I know though that most have something lined up and at least one has gone up the ladder so good luck to them.

[Sephiroth]

Peter

I've actually chatted to one or two in the AP canteen some months ago. I do understand what you mean. I don't know whizzard and I doubt that many people here do. So the problem here is similar to the one that RC caused; without a sense of authenticity, like who's got what standing in this sad matter, ordinary members don't know what's fact and what's supposition.

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I've just learned that whizzard works at one of VM's facilities. So I accept the authenticity of what he says.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Peter

I've actually chatted to one or two in the AP canteen some months ago. I do understand what you mean. I don't know whizzard and I doubt that many people here do. So the problem here is similar to the one that RC caused; without a sense of authenticity, like who's got what standing in this sad matter, ordinary members don't know what's fact and what's supposition.

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I've just learned that whizzard works at one of VM's facilities. So I accept the authenticity of what he says.

I did not realise that you were unaware that whizzard was a confirmed staff member on here good to see that you are now aware.

By the way the above post is a general comment and not specific to you in any way as not everyone reading this thread will be aware of the knowledge and experience being lost purely from the 2nd line team alone.

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On a separate note I did not apply for any of the positions when any companies came on site at the invite of Adecco, because up to the day I left I was only working part time for personal reasons and finished at Midday and all the companies came on site after 2pm.

So I applied for 3 positions of my own accord and received 3 offers, and with very little between them and chose the one nearest to where I live.

I am well aware of the content in the deleted post above but chose to ignore it as ignorance is not an excuse on the part of that person.

[whizzard]

My comments were in response to what were posted earlier by the Wolfman, as well as pointing out the very small amount of IT centric workforce opportunities and therefore experienced vacancy hunters with an in depth IT career background that exist the Welsh side of the Severn Bridge. Nevertheless, the wheels on the cog will not fall off, just the transitional journey in the weeks and months ahead will be bumpy and require resurfacing.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by whizzard

My comments were in response to what were posted earlier by the Wolfman, as well as pointing out the very small amount of IT centric workforce opportunities and therefore experienced vacancy hunters with an in depth IT career background that exist the Welsh side of the Severn Bridge. Nevertheless, the wheels on the cog will not fall off, just the transitional journey in the weeks and months ahead will be bumpy and require resurfacing.

They will not fail but they will struggle for a while with the new 2nd line once the Liverpool guys finally leave the building.

As I said above though some of the answers given on the community forum do get a sharp intake of breath or even a guffaw.

[Nopanic]

Originally Posted by Peter_

They will not fail but they will struggle for a while with the new 2nd line once the Liverpool guys finally leave the building.

As I said above though some of the answers given on the community forum do get a sharp intake of breath or even a guffaw.

I don't disagree, but some of the guys in Swansea really know their stuff and they are willing to learn.

Again though to echo your comments, the dock will be missed.