The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 4

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

It was revealed today, that if the Tories get in, they will make deep cuts in services to save money, All those promises that they have made, what a load of crap that they come out with.

I have said all along that they will make cuts in everything, and now they have said that PARENTS will be responisble for own children education, therefore saving money on education.

I watched Clegg get heckled today, and my word did he get heckled, and then we had Brown stand up and be counted in a manner that is what a PM is all about.

All this garbage coming from Camron's mouth, IF people vote for him, we the working class of this country are going to be worse off than ever. VOTE LABOUR

Yeah Brown stood up, continued his teleprompter speech, and they escorted his heckler off the (public) premises.

You are actually boring me with the nonsense you write. Whoever gets in cuts are happening regardless of Labour's promises about being able to cut the deficit and deliver gold plated prostitutes for all, that's the legacy Brown has left all of us, working class, middle class, upper class. If we could stop with the class nonsense that would also be a bonus. Labour very quickly realised that trying the class warfare thing doesn't work, I guess you missed that memo.

If you'd consider actually basing one of your posts in fact rather than coming across as a stereotypical ignorant and grumpy man who totally ignores anything that doesn't conform to their own opinion that would be fantastic and would perhaps promote a more receptive response to your 'arguments'.

If you would try reading up on things a little before you start using them for your arguments that would also be a bonus. If you have a look the Tory education ideas don't involve parents paying for their children's education they involve giving them more choices rather than assuming that the government knows best.

Cameron didn't leave the country needing massive public sector cuts due to urinating the money away, your hero Gordon did. The same Gordon Brown who it seems has been totally incapable of dealing with real people on the campaign trail either ignoring them until they are escorted out or ignoring what they are saying and talking about them behind their back afterwards. Quite why you'd entrust running the country to someone who can't even handle one dissenting voice is a mystery to me.

I'm finding myself thinking of an NHS advert. 'I have dementia. I also have a Cable Forum account'.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Yes it was in The Mirror, page 8, BUT l have reason to believe this, l am sure you remember what happened the last time the Tories were in power, l was ashamed to be a voter.

As soon as Cameron gets in, the first cuts will be NHS, no matter what Cameron say's, they believe in the private sector for health, as it will save them millions, Education, they have stated in this campaign, that would like to see parents take more control of there school and there child's education, this will save them more millions,.

We have to have a government that will look after EVERYONE, not just the ponces who plough millions into the parties, the working class in this country that supply the food that we eat, the workers that run the railways, public sector workers that provide vital services, ie drs and nurses that look after the sick for a paltry wage, yet the pen pushers that bring in agency staff, as double wages, when normal staff can get the extra money to boost there normal wages.

I don't think the Tories will do this, this is why l say VOTE LABOUR.

Arthur with respect you need to ....oh i can't be bothered

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

Arthur with respect you need to ....oh i can't be bothered

Drag his head out of his own arse

Originally Posted by Sirius

Drag his head out of his own arse

LOL

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Yes it was in The Mirror, page 8, BUT l have reason to believe this, l am sure you remember what happened the last time the Tories were in power, l was ashamed to be a voter.

I know, the economy grew at a faster rate than under Labour and the Tories left Labour an economy in surplus. Truly shaming.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

As soon as Cameron gets in, the first cuts will be NHS, no matter what Cameron say's, they believe in the private sector for health, as it will save them millions, Education, they have stated in this campaign, that would like to see parents take more control of there school and there child's education, this will save them more millions,.

Private money has been building Labour's hospitals and has to be paid back, with interest. Current estimates are that it'll cost 63bn for hospitals worth 11bn but, hey, it's off the books for now and gave Labour something to crow about. Parents having more control over the schools their children attend make a lot of sense, local control of things is good, who better to run things than those who use them and know the local area best?

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

We have to have a government that will look after EVERYONE, not just the ponces who plough millions into the parties, the working class in this country that supply the food that we eat, the workers that run the railways, public sector workers that provide vital services, ie drs and nurses that look after the sick for a paltry wage, yet the pen pushers that bring in agency staff, as double wages, when normal staff can get the extra money to boost there normal wages.

I don't think the Tories will do this, this is why l say VOTE LABOUR.

No we don't - we need a government that encourages people to look after themselves and looks after those who cannot. I will not pay tens of thousands a year in taxes because people refuse to take responsibility for their own lives and well being and expect the government, using my money, to do it for them.

If you want to be looked after by the government China and North Korea are to the East. We're capitalist, despite Labour's best attempts.

[Charlie_Bubble]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

We have to have a government that will look after EVERYONE, not just the ponces who plough millions into the parties, the working class in this country that supply the food that we eat, the workers that run the railways, public sector workers that provide vital services, ie drs and nurses that look after the sick for a paltry wage, yet the pen pushers that bring in agency staff, as double wages, when normal staff can get the extra money to boost there normal wages.

Funny, my cousin is a nurse and earns just over £34k, which in my view and by most people's standards, is not a bad salary.

[papa smurf]

stop it your all jeopardizing the recovery

[Dai]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

As soon as Cameron gets in, the first cuts will be NHS, no matter what Cameron say's, they believe in the private sector for health, as it will save them millions, Education, they have stated in this campaign, that would like to see parents take more control of there school and there child's education, this will save them more millions,.

[sigh].. Oh Arthur.. A country is no different to you and your family. If you went out every day and spent more than you earned how long do you think that would last until you found yourself with the debt collectors at your door?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by DaiNasty

[sigh].. Oh Arthur.. A country is no different to you and your family. If you went out every day and spent more than you earned how long do you think that would last until you found yourself with the debt collectors at your door?

is it 13 years ?

Arthur sorry but you really need to stop reading the tabloids\tomorrows toilet paper and actually start to do some proper research on all of this. No matter who gets in they will HAVE to make deep cuts to the public sector thats thanks to labour and thier usual growth of government rubbish. None of them are being totally honest about the level of cuts they are going to have to make because they all know damn well it will be an instant vote loser and i can understand that.

I don't read the red tops because none of them know how to report accurately anymore as it is so much easier to scare then report. Only thing that has been a complete certainty for me from day one of this campaign is that labour must not get back in and either lib dem or tory would be a vast improvement over them. I will be voting tory because like everyone i like a lot of what the lib dems say but do not believe they can do all they claim. While much of what the torys have said is not that impossible and i believe it can be done with the massively depleted resources this country now has again thanks to labour.

Each to their own but i would much prefer people not to join the mud slinging brigades doing the rounds in this election and make a choice based on their own individual ideas rather then some stupid loyalty from yesteryear that allows all the partys to have safe seats.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

It was revealed today, that if the Tories get in, they will make deep cuts in services to save money

Yep they probably will. You know what, if the Lib Dems come in they will probably make deep cuts in services, if Labour get in, along with skiing trips to hell and flying pigs, they will probably make deep cuts in services.

It's really quite simple. The government is spending money it doesn't have. It's used all the dodges it can to hide debts off the books but now its finally had to come clean that it has no money and an overdraft bigger than the average student.

It can either sort out this problem and have some pain along the way or ignore it, continue spending money on wasteful schemes like ID cards, NHS IT schemes and the blood of young children for Mandelson to drink and then have the mother of all problems a few years down the line that would makes Greeces issues a walk in the park by comparison.

[Jimmy-J]

Arthur, it's your vote, use it as you wish. There's only one of two parties we'll see in number 10 on the 7th, and that will be either the Conservatives or Labour. In other words, just more of the same that we've been accustomed to for donkeys years.

[mikegreen]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

No we don't - we need a government that encourages people to look after themselves and looks after those who cannot. I will not pay tens of thousands a year in taxes because people refuse to take responsibility for their own lives and well being and expect the government, using my money, to do it for them.

If you want to be looked after by the government China and North Korea are to the East. We're capitalist, despite Labour's best attempts.

How are Davey & Co going to turn this state of affairs around exactly? Any idea?

Or is this just another hollow promise that you are willing to take at face value just because Mr C says it will happen?

You are quick to attempt to shoot down other people on this forum with your snobbish and boorish posts so please at least practice what you preach and lets have some "facts"...

[Arthurgray50@blu]

This forum is about free speech, and the one thing l love about it, is the slanging matches that goes on between members.

On Friday morning, people will be saying, 'oh no ' they got in, then hell for the next five years, The election will gives us a party that will go on tv, to brag at what they are going to achieve, and it will be a load of crap, IF the Tories get in, then prepare yourself for Thatcher 2, as that is what is going to happen. That is my last word on the subject.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This forum is about free speech, and the one thing l love about it, is the slanging matches that goes on between members.

On Friday morning, people will be saying, 'oh no ' they got in, then hell for the next five years, The election will gives us a party that will go on tv, to brag at what they are going to achieve, and it will be a load of crap, IF the Tories get in, then prepare yourself for Thatcher 2, as that is what is going to happen. That is my last word on the subject.

you said that the last time

from what i remember of the thatcher years Arthur she bought the country back from the brink of bankruptcy so whoever gets in they will have to do the same ,so yeh Thatcher 2 doesn't sound too bad