New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!

[Keane]

When it comes to getting these letters for excessive usage, what exactly causes them to issue them? If I download 7gb between 12am and 6am for seven days straight, would that get me a letter or does it only count if I break their shitty 2.4gb/1.2gb during the day?

[toytown]

Originally Posted by pippincp

Says it all!

Miles better than my current 20MBit in Stafford.

[hokkers999]

Originally Posted by pippincp

So why didn't you security (your words) your wireless when you first got it?
You are responsible for whoever uses your connection and to have 6 unknown people using your connection is just not reckless it's stupid.

The other word for it is 'altruistic'. Sometimes some of us just like to share things.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

this is the high speed STM's connection i have at the moment from VM's 20 meg service

So do what I did and vote with your wallet. Downgrade to the 2 meg service. The ludicrous thing about this STM is that if I get "capped" for downloading too much and I am degrading the network...then why do the capped 20 megger's still get 2.5 times my maximum??

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by hokkers999

The other word for it is 'altruistic'. Sometimes some of us just like to share things.

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So do what I did and vote with your wallet. Downgrade to the 2 meg service. The ludicrous thing about this STM is that if I get "capped" for downloading too much and I am degrading the network...then why do the capped 20 megger's still get 2.5 times my maximum??

Hokkers, you've hit the nail on the head!

Most of us just like to share things and if you think about it that is what P2P, or torrenting , is all about. The only thing is, is that most of it is illegal. That is why if you have WiFi you should secure your connection to stop outsiders from accessing it as the account holder is responsible for anyone who uses that connection and if they are downloading "illegally" who is to blame?

In a perfect world everything would be free but we don't have one.(That comment does not constitute another thread)

The way I look at it is this.

If I buy something it belongs to me-why? Because I paid for it!
If I then decide to give MY property to a neighbour or a friend then that is MY decision.

It's about time that the big companies got their head round consumerism i.e. if you sell me something don't come back crying if I do what I want with it!

Example, I buy a television for my bedroom, my friend says he needs one, so I give him the one from the bedroom as I can manage with what I've already got. No illegality there.

I buy a DVD my friend says he would like to watch it so I give it to him WRONG!- breeches copyright.

I could go on but I don't want to bore anyone.

[jaycee]

Have just found out about the new STM.

It's Fing rediculous. I can understand limiting the main peak hour 4pm-9pm, but limiting any other time is just simply ripping customers off.

If they don't relent on this soon then I'll go with ADSL even if I only get 2Mbit max, simply as a matter of principle!!

[Nicosia]

well said jaycee your right, 4-9 is ok but making the hours basically 24/7 capping for using ur connection is stupid i hope enough peole complain leave and laugh at ntl on live tv like bt did for VM to realise what they are doing is stupid..

if the capping becomes more ( 24/7) i might end up going back to adsl even though i never get more then 8mbit at least they wont CAP ME and now ukonline who i was with offering 1mbit upload

[jaycee]

im pretty stuck at the mo, our local exchange is crap and i can only get a guaranteed 2mbit service... but it is due to be upgraded and LLU'd next year, so if Virgin are still pulling this crap then... I'll be off after 10 years of being a customer of thiers in 3 different areas!

[Jelly]

LLU is *DSL only isn't it?

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by Jelly

LLU is *DSL only isn't it?

Yes.

[Down the Pub]

Originally Posted by hokkers999

so do what I did and vote with your wallet. Downgrade to the 2 meg service. The ludicrous thing about this STM is that if I get "capped" for downloading too much and I am degrading the network...then why do the capped 20 megger's still get 2.5 times my maximum??

because they are still paying for the cough*premium*cough service, if you were being stm'd to the same level of the 2meg tier, and your paying double the cost for the privlidge - would you be happy? i know i wouldn't, and yes i did vote with my wallet (after my vote about service fell on deaf ears) and went to o2 with no caps or stm in sight.

[jaycee]

I have two choices currently - move over to the business broadband package and pay more to actually get a working service... or sit it out and hope either Virgin relent on this stupidity, or if they dont, move to LLU'd ADSL when my exchange is upgraded.

The likelihood of the business broadband happening is remote - after all, it is connected to *exactly the same* network and uses *exactly the same* equipment - yet Virgin claim they cannot sustain the service for domestic customers.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by jaycee

I have two choices currently - move over to the business broadband package and pay more to actually get a working service... or sit it out and hope either Virgin relent on this stupidity, or if they dont, move to LLU'd ADSL when my exchange is upgraded.

The likelihood of the business broadband happening is remote - after all, it is connected to *exactly the same* network and uses *exactly the same* equipment - yet Virgin claim they cannot sustain the service for domestic customers.

And the business package is STM'd as well.

[jaycee]

Uh, since when? That isn't what the website says

I quote "Unmetered and 'always-on' connection - no usage restrictions or caps"

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by jaycee

Uh, since when? That isn't what the website says

Trust me it is.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34568648-post34.html

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...iness-stm.html

[CrowmanUK]

When I signed up to the ADSL package the FUP said you would get a minimum of 512kb/sec if you were capped, it was actually 80kbps, just a bit quicker than dial up, dont always believe what you read on the site as they do take a while to update it.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...anagement.html